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ownagebam
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Is this a good PC? Reply with quote

I'm building a budget computer, here is what I have so far:

DVD Drive
ASUS 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black PATA Model DRW-1814BL - OEM $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135148

Case
XION II XON-101 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power Supply - Retail $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208005

Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM$40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822135106

Crappy Keyboard
SpecResearch DynaPoint KD-558B/PS2 Black PS/2 Standard Keyboard - Retail $5 Very Happy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823157004

RAM
Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2/1GR - Retail $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134216

Motherboard

MSI P6NGM-L LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce7050 / nForce610i Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130130

Processor

Intel Celeron E1200 1.6GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E1200 - Retail $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130130

Total - $245

This is my first time building a PC, I'm probably missing something.
The case has 3 fans and a PSU, so i didn't forget those.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replace the hard drive with one from a reputable brand such as Western Digital. A hard drive is the last place you want to cheap out.

Also, I don't see a PSU in there other than the one that comes with the case, and I hope to god you don't actually plan on using that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a Western Digital that was also 80GB, only 5 bucks more.

If i'm not going for a high performance gaming computer, do i still need a different power supply?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't need a new PSU. Mostly people don't use the PSU that comes with cases because they have a tenancy of being crappy, but if you don't go anywhere near the PSU 's capacity you wont have any problems.
Also you can save 5$ by getting a:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822210003
Conversely you could get a:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145213
Which is a Hitachi 320 GB HD for 50$ (with free shipping), which would only be 3$ total more than your current HD choice (after you add in the shipping).
There are some cheaper 160GB HD's out there, but after shipping is included they actually cost more than the 320GB does. Hitachi has a 160GB HD for 41.99$ + 8.55$ (shipping)= 50$+, while WD has one thats 43.99$ + 8.55$ (shipping)= 52$+.
I'm going to look through what you have currently and see if there's a piece of equipment rated higher with free shipping that would cost the same as what your currently looking at.
Always look for the best deals, free shipping can do amazing things. =P
You also have the wrong link for the CPU.


EDT:

For your Optical Drive:
Yours:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135148 24.99$ + 8.25$ Shipping= 33.24$
One I found:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106073 29.99$ free shipping
Savings of: 3.25$

For the Case:
Do you want the case to be atheistically pleasing? Or just functional?

RAM:
Yours costs 26.98$ after shipping.
This depends on if your going to be doing the mail in rebates:
OCZ Value Series 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 667 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227060 38.99$ free shipping - 25$ Mail in rebate= 13.99$ savings of 12.99$

Motherboard:
Yours costs: 58.96$ after shipping.
I've been looking at several mobos, and I've never been good at really telling what mobo is better than another one, I can only look at reviews, so this is what I got:
Elite Group 945GCT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135068 42.99$+ 8.97$ shipping = 51.96$ - 10$ mail in rebate = 41.96$ savings of: 17$

So far your saving 33.24$, and then plus/minus whatever you decide to do with the hard drive.

Do you have a mouse? Speakers? Monitor? GPU?

Speaking of GPU:
MSI Radeon X1550 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127294 25.99$ + 6.99$ shipping = 32.98$ - 10$ mail in rebate= 22.98$
I don't know what the major difference between the MSI Radeon X1550 and this one is, though they managed to increase the clock speed of this one somehow...
HIS Hightech Radeon X1550 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161200 26.99$ + 6.99$ shipping = 33.98$ - 10$ mail in reabte= 23.98$
Or
Biostar 8400GS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141068 29.99$ + 6.99$ shipping = 36.98 - 10$ mail in rebate= 26.98$

Cheap mouse:
Rosewill mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161200 3.99$ + 6.99$ shipping = 10.98$
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help!

I already have a moniter, speakers, and a mouse,
so thats not a problem.

I added the hard drive you suggested,
and the RAM.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your maximum budget? $300? If you can invest $50 more, then you can get a considerably better computer (dual core, more RAM, larger hard drive).

Also, look around other retailers unless you are really stuck with Newegg. Although Newegg is usually good with prices, other retailers occasionally have really awesome deals (for example, 2GB DDR2-800 Crucial Ballistix for $15).

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a very good budget, as I'm only in high school.
I haven't updated the list at the top, its now 320GB HD and 2 gig ram.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superweapons wrote:
What is your maximum budget? $300? If you can invest $50 more, then you can get a considerably better computer (dual core, more RAM, larger hard drive).

Also, look around other retailers unless you are really stuck with Newegg. Although Newegg is usually good with prices, other retailers occasionally have really awesome deals (for example, 2GB DDR2-800 Crucial Ballistix for $15).


I would rather him have a c2d, but the problem is the cheapest one that I've found is about 50$ more than what he's chosen. And I don't know which mobos support Pentium dual core, because he could get a E2200 for 30$ more than his current cpu choice.

(And I personally trust newegg more than other retailers. So for me its just a personal preference.)

But if you got a case that was just functional, you could grab a different mobo and the better cpu, and you still should be able to find ram easily.


EDIT:
Just a random thought, but have you looked at AMD?
EDIT2:
You could get these and keep the RAM you have now:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600 56.50$ free shipping
Mobo: PC CHIPS A13G+ 44.99$ + 8.97$ shipping= 53.96$ - 10$ mail in rebate = 43.96$
Though you could get this, or something similar if you want to future proof the computer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentium Dual Core is based on the Intel Core 2 microarchitecture, and the only difference is that Core 2 Duos and Core 2 Quads have more L2 cache compared to the Pentium Dual Core.

All you really need is an E2180. Pentium Dual Cores are very good at overclocking, most can hit 3GHz if you have a good motherboard and RAM. You could get an MSI P31 Neo-F to go with it. 1GB more of RAM should cost you about $10, and a larger hard drive should also only cost about $10, so you'll only have to add about another $50 to your budget.

If you are going with AMD, try to get the cheapest dual cores (4200+, 4400+), and use the rest of the money to get a better motherboard. I wouldn't really recommend the PC Chips motherboard that Mazeura suggested, but you don't really have a huge choice of motherboards under $50.

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