Cheat Engine

[sch777]

[/b]A bit frustrated!
Not with Cheat Engine!
However with the lack of knowing what the heck i am doing wrong!!!!!!!!
Okay I went through the Tutorial.exe with flying colors and got to the end, either by luck or by chance. ‘Cause for the most part i have no real clue to hexadecimal and assembler and disassembler.
The problem i am having is with the game (Swarm 1.4). I used the Cheat Engine 4.4, Which is the best cheat finder i have found so far, because it really WORKS!!!! for the most part.
In the game i found everything i wanted to find. I saved the table (Swarm.CT), closed everything out. Shut the computer down, went to work. 12 hours later came home and turned everything on, started up the Cheat Engine, loaded up the (Swarm.CT) and started the game, loaded up the (Swarm.exe) in the process. All the cheats address either had ?? in the Value box or some crazy big numbers. None of the cheats worked. What in the world did i do wrong??????????????????????



A Note To Dark Byte

Is it or could it be possibly to create a tool to convert hexadecimal and assembler and disassembler information into a basic langue like one that people that have no idea what all the numbers and –mov [esi+00000146],eax means. It is all a mind buster!!!! Or could i find info on what all this means –mov [esi+00000146],eax.


Thanks to anyone with any info

[Dark Byte]

This is because of dynamic memory allocation. Because you've restarted the game, windows gave it other memorylocations to work with.

There are a few ways arround this like finding the pointer, or the code that accesses those addresses.
But the easiest is finding something easy to scan in the table you have and then use the recalculate addresses option. There's a high chance that the addresses are then fine again (till next time you restast)

[sch777]

That darn DMA, i’ve just learned something new to me. That is what it means.
Thank you for your advise, i used it before you wrote it. That is i went back into Cheat Engine and applied the pointer rule of thumb that i found in the 3D pinball tutorial to my problem, and it worked out great!!!!

This recalculation thingy? would it also apply to tables from other computers?
Such as i ran the Cheat Engine and the game on two other computer and the table from this computer didn’t work on the other two computers. So i ran the game and the Cheat Engine on them and found the pointer and saved the tables to figure out if i can get the other two tables to work on this computer. Two gateways And one dell computer.


What i meant about making a tool to covert hex, ass, disass to a language people can understand.

Is what ever happened to basic language, where you seen something like this:

10 4 = 4
20 4 / 2
30 if 4 = 4
40 then goto 20

or something like this.

I know basic takes up a lot of paper. But this is the computer GB age, where space isn’t much of a issue anymore. That’s what i meant by converting.

Last but not least you are the master Dark Byte!!!!

Thanks for your info

I’ll check out the tutorials.

[Dark Byte]

[sch777]

Yes all the OS are the same Xp. However the SP are not the same, this computer is WinXp only, while the other two have WinXp SP 1 & 2. Will that make a difference? Also the Ram is different on all three. 384MB this one, 128MB the other gateway, 512MB the Dell. Would This have any impact?

This all comes about because i have went to a lot of web sites to find trainers for the games i have and none of the trainers i have found for the right version of swarm works. So now i’m looking at making my own trainer through the cheat Engine program. But i want it to work on all my computers and any new computers i upgrade to later on. So now what i am thinking is that the trainers i have found for Swarm was made on other OS, Win9x and such. Since you brought it to my attention about (If they are using the same OS)

Do you know anything about converting NTFS back To FAT32?
I’ve heard it said it can’t be done?

I will apply everything you said to see if i can get it to work.

Dark Byte, make such a tool to do better then a decompiler you have the brains for it.
I don’t have years nor the time to learn everything you know. Otherwise i would do it.


Can you point me in the right direction to a good decompiler?

Thanks again for your info

[Dark Byte]