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Mazeura · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: Temperatures in Sager 9262

I know I've asked a lot of questions regarding my laptop, but please bare with me.

I have a Sager 9262, and I got it with the X6800 and 2 160HD's. I bought a 320gig HD, and moved the HD that SAger had placed under the battery to the center array and placed the 320gig under the battery.
On one of the 160's I have windows, and on the other I have Kubuntu. Windows can not see the Kubuntu HD, which is fine, but whenever I run anything off of the windows HD, the temperatures on the HD's get up to 58-62*C and stay at that for a very long time. Even when I am not doing anything very heavy. I do have the majority of my stuff on the 320 which I'm using as storage, and am having no problems with it's temperatures.
I looked up the specs on the HD's that I have and they are only designed to work up to 60*C, so should I be worrying if both of them are reporting temperatures 60+*C for easily hours at a time?

Also, I have problems with my CPU overheating. I was playing a free MMORPG and the temperatures were being reported up to 65*C. The CPU is only designed to run at 60.4*C. I had the fans at full, and a foot of clearance underneath the laptop (I have balanced it in my lap). I had called Intel about this, and they just told me that since I was using a utility, they could not say anything for sure (since apparently [3 different all reporting temperatures within 2-3*C f each other...] utilities can not access the bios temperature readings by themselves...), and that I would have to go to the bios and look there. The problem is that by the time the laptop shutsdown and reboots, the CPU temperature drops at least 5 or 8 *C, placing it underneath the thermal specs.

So I'm concerned about my CPU melting itself because its running at 60.4+*C for hours at a time, and then I'm concerned with my HD's giving out on me. (Thankfully I've backed up what I need already just in case.)

And I don't want to talk to Sager about this until I am absolutley sure that I have a reason for concern.

Now I know that's a lot, but the three programs that I've used are SpeedFan, SiSoftware, and PC Wizard 2008. I've also used another program that I can not find or recall the name of...
But are those three generally accurate?

Edit: This is a laptop.

Localhost · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject:

TL;DR... I think 65C is fine... Mine runs at 80C when i am really stressing it out... (its a quad core)

Mazeura · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

See, when I had called Intel they told me that the highest that the CPU is to work at is 60.4*C, otherwise it auto-turns off. (At least according to the Intel tech support...)

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

You can likely get away with such high heat with no problems, but it will take a toll on the life of the hardware.

Just try to keep it well vented and it will be fine.

tmocky · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject:

Intel support people are faggots, no offence. But uhh, if you really insist on lowering that temperature, try removing your heatsink and shit (make sure you don't lose warranty with that) and then use compressed air to get rid of all the dust. Aim towards the side-vents... Last time my laptop kept on rebooting and all I did was use one of those air-mattress blowy-things to clean my laptop a little... it worked. Wink

Btw, if your computer is rather new (3 months or less) then I doubt the spraying will actually work, but it's always worth trying.

Mazeura · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject:

@tmocky:
I've cleaned the heatsinks three times so far, and each time nothing was in them. The computer just sucks at getting rid of heat apparently...

iTz SWAT · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:02 am Post subject:

If your computer can't get rid of heat then I would recommend 1 of these solutions.

1.New 3rd Party CPU Fan
2.Computer Case Fan
3.Leave 1 side of the computer case open if totaly necesary.

I wudn't recommend liquid cooling because it is load and over kill.

Mazeura · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

ITS A LAPTOP

...................

That might of been a little harsh, and I'm sorry, but I remember you posting in another topic that I ad asked a question about my laptop, and it was stated several times that this is a laptop.

If I'm wrong, then sorry, but this is a laptop. I don't have those options.

Madman · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject:

Is it impossible to get a refund/credit?

Mazeura · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject:

Well, Sager has a 30-day refund policy, and its been about 3 months. And I'm trying to pull together a list reasons as to why I need to exchange this computer, because otherwise I do not think that they'll let me.

So I'm trying to get all of my facts straight so when I go to talk to them, I can just give them all the reasons as to why they should allow me to exchange this laptop.

Otherwise, I highly doubt that they will let me. The only way that I can see this happening is if I have everything solidly backed and there is nothing that they can say against any of them (or at least the majority of them).

(Plus if they try to counter me, I'll just tell them what they told me: "This is a gaming computer" and that it shouldn't be having these problems since it is designed to be playing high-end games.)

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject:

Mazeura · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject:

Foot of air clearance, fans at full, temp reprted @ 65+*C for about 2 hours solid. (Playing a free MMORPG as well............)

Don't have Crysis installed right now, but I'll reinstall it and see what happens.

blackdiamond · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:48 am Post subject:

that's pretty hot, maybe add some more cooling fans.

however, compared with mine, my AMD AthlonXP 3000+ had recently hit a personal record of 87, done in FL Studio 8, and it still isn't cooked after 2 years in a case with the best cooling ever (one side is obstructed by a wall, the back is also faced to a wall, and the other side is obstructed by the motherboard)

Mazeura · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject:

Yes, but the mobile processors (I'm assuming that is what that is at least) can withstand much higher temperatures than their desktop counterparts. I'm pretty sure that all of intel's mobile cpus can withstand temperatures up to 9000 degrees, er 100*C. (Sorry for the Starfox quote there >.>" )
And I am pretty sure that the same holds true with AMD's mobile processors.

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject:

No, the ratings are still the same, the quads are rated to run at 70c.