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Delphi a good hacking language?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Delphi a good hacking language? Reply with quote

Well, I chose to start learning Delphi instead of C/C++ (which my friend is going to try) , and I would like to know If Delphi is a good programming language to stop my leeching career and start actually making a few bots and even some trainers (hopefully).



P.S. I know I won't be coding trainers anytime soon, and that I'll need loads of reading and learning before I can, so don't flame me about anything. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I love Delphi but then again I try to learn as many as I can so my knowledge just grows and grows my suggestion to you is not to just learn delphi but also learn others as well in fact learn all that you can learn put your brain to the test
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're both going to end up at the same place either way, the Win32 API.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh, slovach is about right, it think delphi is alright, but for hacking and asm, i think C++ is better
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's no such thing best hacking lang, every lang has it's own advantages and disadvantages
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be missing out on anything would I by learning Delphi first?

I've got a decent hold on Delphi now, made a couple practice programs(simple though, and nothing to do with gamehacking), and the only reason I didn't learn C/C++ first is because I couldn't find a decent tutorial and the best one I found didn't explain the terms to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalookakoo wrote:
I wouldn't be missing out on anything would I by learning Delphi first?

I've got a decent hold on Delphi now, made a couple practice programs(simple though, and nothing to do with gamehacking), and the only reason I didn't learn C/C++ first is because I couldn't find a decent tutorial and the best one I found didn't explain the terms to me.


Depends how far you want to go with the language. Delphi will have it's limits where C/C++ will expand further then Delphi will take you, as C/C++ has far less limitations and such. As well as C being a cross-platform language, you can benefit from much more different aspects.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kalookakoo wrote:
I wouldn't be missing out on anything would I by learning Delphi first?

I've got a decent hold on Delphi now, made a couple practice programs(simple though, and nothing to do with gamehacking), and the only reason I didn't learn C/C++ first is because I couldn't find a decent tutorial and the best one I found didn't explain the terms to me.


Depends how far you want to go with the language. Delphi will have it's limits where C/C++ will expand further then Delphi will take you, as C/C++ has far less limitations and such. As well as C being a cross-platform language, you can benefit from much more different aspects.


Hmm wiccaan, actually I'm kind of in the same trouble.
I know basics of C++ and I'm doing a bit Delphi right now, Delphi sure is easier to start with, that's something I can assure you of.
Then again, knowing the C++ basics BEFORE going over to (or just play with) delphi is kind of an advantage since Delphi uses objectorientation, which is not like "real" programming in my own opinion.

Then again I've just learned the basics of the two basically, so correct me all you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ASM would be the BEST hacking language.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HornyAZNBoy wrote:
ASM would be the BEST hacking language.


I'm guessing that's your personal opinion.

What does ASM stand for anyways, and why do you consider it "best".
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HornyAZNBoy wrote:
ASM would be the BEST hacking language.


how do you know ? have you hacked before ? no one in this forum have hacked before (including me)

you think (oh boy, here goes my famous speech again) mem editing, bypassing GG (silly protection) makes you a hacker ? or makes you a computer criminal ? oh give me a break, we're only increasing nProtects money by forcing/pushing ms for a gg update, what i'm trying to is that hacking is by exploiting something as in appalsap hacked maplestory.com (before nexon took over it) that's what she toled me, i remember somebody hacked it (really, when i wrote a topic, somebody edited it without my permission and i'm sure it wasn't acc hijack)

the reply above me, asm = assembly, if you want a good "hacking" language, get friend with C/++.

my uncle (when he was younger, about 16, they had slower internet, i'm not sure) he downloed warez over a bank server @ paris, the police opend him a bag for that crime, he used to hack people (hobbit), this story came out of him when he was being recruited to the army (Air Born)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I want to do is make hacks for Maplestory, and maybe a couple other games. Would using delphi instead of C/C++ handicap me.


If so, why?/how come?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalookakoo wrote:
All I want to do is make hacks for Maplestory, and maybe a couple other games. Would using delphi instead of C/C++ handicap me.


If so, why?/how come?

It wouldn't handicap you. The only "benefits" of Delphi is easy to make GUIs.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalookakoo wrote:
All I want to do is make hacks for Maplestory, and maybe a couple other games. Would using delphi instead of C/C++ handicap me.


If so, why?/how come?


For me, it looks like you're trying to get attention, just start learning SOMETHING and continue with it !!!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ASM stands for assembly. It is pretty much machine language, but in human-readable form. So basically: anything your computer hardware is capable of, ASM will be able to pull it off.

ASM is somewhat faster than the C family & Delphi (probably about two times faster at guess, but most code can be pulled off without noticeable differences).
Delphi is a powerful language. Once again though, assembly is the code of your machine.

Anyway, delphi wouldn't handicap you in programming MapleStory hacks because as slovach said: you'll end up using Win32 API.

My advice, either stick with what you know and improve it - or start all over and learn assembly (a lot of hacking involves assembly anyway) then work your way down to the less-flexible languages.

Just my opinion though, it really doesn't matter what you code in - generally it's personal preference.

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By the way, Rot1 - I don't mean to insult your knowledge or anything, but what you are referring may be more towards cracking. Hacking is when you are making a modification to something that would not otherwise be possible (of course, these days 99% of the time it is something illegal lol). So you are somewhat right. But I guarantee you, quite a few people here would have experience with things that would be considered illegal in many states.
I'm going through a court case for something related to the pre-mentioned topic, I was charged with 'Theft Under $1000' - no sentencing has been made at the moment, currently remanded until early next month. Will probably only get PD and diversion since it's my 'first offense' lol.
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