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Hey! I need some help with Tutorial Step 8

 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Hey! I need some help with Tutorial Step 8 Reply with quote

Hey everyone, I'm new to Cheat Engine but I'm really taking a likeing to this stuff.. Anyways, heres my problem...

I find what writes to the first address, add it as a pointer, and all goes well. Then, I take the address of the pointer, do a hex search, and then add that address to the pointer list. But, when I hex search for the 2nd pointer address, it always returns 0 results.. I can "change pointer" as much as I want, I always get 0 results on the 2nd pointer address.. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!!

Does no one understand my question?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are guides in the tutorial section on this
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Hey! I need some help with Tutorial Step 8 Reply with quote

blake wrote:
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ya! Razz

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you choose read, not write after first pointer!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go over the tutorial until you get it for sure and you understand what you are doing.

If in doubt use the Cheat Engine Tutorial Guide.

Otherwise just look over and search the Cheat Engine Tutorials Section.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Hey! I need some help with Tutorial Step 8 Reply with quote

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blake wrote:
Does no one understand my question?


ya! Razz

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you choose read, not write after first pointer!

better choose access instead of read

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buzzah wrote:
I would go over the tutorial until you get it for sure and you understand what you are doing.

If in doubt use the Cheat Engine Tutorial Guide.

Otherwise just look over and search the Cheat Engine Tutorials Section.


we don't need links, we need information in the post you posted.
and I don't think newbies would read long post...

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blake wrote:
Does no one understand my question?


ya! Razz

jk

you choose read, not write after first pointer!

better choose access instead of read


ty for information given, and I'm sure the one who wrote CE tut's tut doesn't really know it's best or not...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be missing something, but I couldn't find a step-by-step on tutorial 8. All the ones I found skip steps and go directly to the base pointer. I need some help on finding each address until I reach the base pointer.

Right now, I can find the pointer address of the 1st pointer, but after that, I run into mov eax,[eax]. I know offset of first pointer is 18, offset of mov eax,[eax] is 0, but the address it gives me is the value of the address that I'm currently 'trying to find what address access this'. So it's not giving me a new address to hex search for. I tried changing it to 'Memory Access Exceptions' but that address is already added also.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blake wrote:
I could be missing something, but I couldn't find a step-by-step on tutorial 8. All the ones I found skip steps and go directly to the base pointer. I need some help on finding each address until I reach the base pointer.

Right now, I can find the pointer address of the 1st pointer, but after that, I run into mov eax,[eax]. I know offset of first pointer is 18, offset of mov eax,[eax] is 0, but the address it gives me is the value of the address that I'm currently 'trying to find what address access this'. So it's not giving me a new address to hex search for. I tried changing it to 'Memory Access Exceptions' but that address is already added also.


why do you need help on finding each? that doesn't make sense...


btw, try all things it have... there should be 6 in total, so try them.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know.. maybe just to understand it so if I run into multi-level pointers in games, I'll know what to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blake wrote:
I don't know.. maybe just to understand it so if I run into multi-level pointers in games, I'll know what to do.


impossible. those game creators probably won't do that.

technically, they use the same pointer for the related kind of data, e.g money,hp,ap will have the same pointer if the game creator has no sense

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24653187 wrote:

we don't need links, we need information in the post you posted.
and I don't think newbies would read long post...

The links are locations to the information.
If they are too lazy to read a long post then they cant learn how to use the tool much less learn to do anything.

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impossible. those game creators probably won't do that.

technically, they use the same pointer for the related kind of data, e.g money,hp,ap will have the same pointer if the game creator has no sense

Are you nuts, allot of games do have code that has multilevel pointers.

blake wrote:
I need some help on finding each address until I reach the base pointer.

You use the same method you did to find the first pointer.
Then you find what write,access's or reads from that pointer and then do a hex search again, keep going till you find the base.

You have the right idea wanting to learn how to look for them manually.
I would keep trying to do it this and know how to do something that well over 3/4 of this sites members cant do.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Labyrnth wrote:
You have the right idea wanting to learn how to look for them manually. I would keep trying to do it this and know how to do something that well over 3/4 of this sites members cant do.


did you read what dark byte said? you shouldn't use write, and you should use read/access!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you know what he meant by that, you wouldn't be posting what you just said.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Labyrnth wrote:
And if you know what he meant by that, you wouldn't be posting what you just said.


what did I say?

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