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dnsi0 I post too much
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Themida |
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How does Themida protect from olly dbg???
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goldengold Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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this topic would be better if you posted it in the crack me's
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appalsap Moderator
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:26 am Post subject: |
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It does nothing to "protect" itself, it just detects ollydbg and shuts down (if it couldn't crash ollydbg using some lame bug).
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dnsi0 I post too much
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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How does it crash olly dbg???
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Flyte Peanuts!!!!
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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dnsi0 wrote: | How does it crash olly dbg??? |
Any programs that were compiled by Borland C++ (1999 I believe) have a problem handling very large floating point numbers. If the decompiler comes across one of these numbers, it just sort of crashes.
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dnsi0 I post too much
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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lol. thats how I crash flash debuggers/decompiler...
I use the _byte("A Riddiculously large number") over and over again in the first frame.
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Flyte Peanuts!!!!
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Here, I assembled something for you to try. The program runs fine, but try opening it in Olly.
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dnsi0 I post too much
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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How did you achive this???
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Flyte Peanuts!!!!
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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dnsi0 wrote: | How did you achive this??? |
By (ab)using the same bug that Themida (ab)uses to crash Olly.
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appalsap Moderator
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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interesting, flyte, your program is detected as Win32/Statik
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Flyte Peanuts!!!!
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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appalsap wrote: | interesting, flyte, your program is detected as Win32/Statik |
Interesting, appalsap, virustotal says it is fine.
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dnsi0 I post too much
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Code please?
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appalsap Moderator
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Flyte wrote: | Interesting, appalsap, virustotal says it is fine. |
virustotal uses nod32 v2 I use nod32 v3
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dnsi0 I post too much
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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How can you change the assembly with olly dbg and make it detected to olly?
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Flyte Peanuts!!!!
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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dnsi0 wrote: | How can you change the assembly with olly dbg and make it detected to olly? |
With a hex editor or a different debugger.
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