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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Abortions, Serious Business Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's lulzy about abortion? It's something people get upset about, but it's not something irrational (like the holocaust).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's lulzy about abortion? It's something people get upset about, but it's not something irrational (like the holocaust).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killing a baby isn't irrational? Oh right.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dunno, lol

you seem to have a firm stand on your opinions though
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Early-term surgical abortion is a simple procedure, which is considered safer than childbirth when performed before the 16th week under modern medical conditions.[24][25] Abortion methods, like most minimally invasive procedures, carry a small potential for serious complications, including perforated uterus,[26][27] perforated bowel[28] or bladder,[29] septic shock,[30] sterility,[31] and death.[32] The risk of complications can increase depending on how far pregnancy has progressed.[33][34]

Dilation of the cervix carries the risk of cervical tears or perforations, including small tears that might not be apparent and might cause cervical incompetence in future pregnancies. Most practitioners recommend using the smallest possible dilators, and using osmotic rather than mechanical dilators after the first trimester.

Instruments that are placed within the uterus can, on rare occasions, cause perforation[33] or laceration of the uterus, and damage structures surrounding the uterus. Laceration or perforation of the uterus or cervix can, again on rare occasions, lead to more serious complications.

Incomplete emptying of the uterus can cause hemorrhage and infection. Use of ultrasound verification of the location and duration of the pregnancy prior to abortion, with immediate follow-up of patients reporting continuing pregnancy symptoms after the procedure, will virtually eliminate this risk. The sooner a complication is noted and properly treated, the lower the risk of permanent injury or death.

Assessing the risks of induced abortion depends on a number of factors. First, there are relative health risks of induced abortion and pregnancy, which are both affected by wide variation in the quality of health services in different societies and among different socio-economic groups, a lack of uniform definitions of terms, and difficulties in patient follow-up and after-care. The degree of risk is also dependent upon the skill and experience of the practitioner; maternal age, health, and parity;[34] gestational age;[34][33] pre-existing conditions; methods and instruments used; medications used; the skill and experience of those assisting the practitioner; and the quality of recovery and follow-up care.

In the United Kingdom, the number of deaths directly due to legal abortion between the years of 1991 and 1993 was 5, compared to 3 deaths following spontaneous miscarriage and 8 deaths caused by ectopic pregnancy during the same time frame.[35] In the United States, during the year 1999, there were 4 deaths due to legal abortion, 10 due to miscarriage, and 525 due to pregnancy-related reasons.[36][37]

Women experience pain, usually minor, during first-trimester abortion procedures. In a 1979 study of 2,299 patients, 97% reported experiencing some degree of pain. Patients rated the pain as being less than earache or toothache, but more than headache or backache. Youngest patients experienced the most pain; oldest, the least.[38] In a 1991 study of 35 18 – 40 year olds, 70% reported cramping, 45.7% reported fatigue (“tiring”), and 40% reported cutting. 34.3% of the women chose the following descriptions: tugging, pulling, aching, and intense. Women who had a previous abortion had more pain on the affective MPQ and PPI scales than did those who did not have a previous abortion.[39]

Some practitioners advocate using minimal anaesthesia so the patient can alert them to possible complications. Others recommend general anaesthesia, to prevent patient movement, which might cause a perforation. General anaesthesia carries its own risks, including death, which is why public health officials recommend against its routine use.

In rare cases, abortion will be unsuccessful and pregnancy will continue. An unsuccessful abortion can result in delivery of a live infant. This, termed a failed abortion, can occur only late in pregnancy. Some doctors have voiced concerns about the ethical and legal ramifications of letting the infant die. As a result, recent investigations have been launched in the United Kingdom by the Confidential Enquiry into Maternal and Child Health (CEMACH) and the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, in order to determine how widespread the problem is and what an ethical response in the treatment of the infant might be. A preliminary report from this investigation indicated that at least 50 babies a year are born in the UK following failed abortions after 18 weeks of gestation.[40]

Unsafe abortion methods (e.g. use of certain drugs, herbs, or insertion of non-surgical objects into the uterus) are potentially dangerous, carrying a significantly elevated risk for permanent injury or death, as compared to abortions done by physicians.

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Early-term surgical abortion is a simple procedure, which is considered safer than childbirth when performed before the 16th week under modern medical conditions.[24][25] Abortion methods, like most minimally invasive procedures, carry a small potential for serious complications, including perforated uterus,[26][27] perforated bowel[28] or bladder,[29] septic shock,[30] sterility,[31] and death.[32] The risk of complications can increase depending on how far pregnancy has progressed.[33][34]

Dilation of the cervix carries the risk of cervical tears or perforations, including small tears that might not be apparent and might cause cervical incompetence in future pregnancies. Most practitioners recommend using the smallest possible dilators, and using osmotic rather than mechanical dilators after the first trimester.

Instruments that are placed within the uterus can, on rare occasions, cause perforation[33] or laceration of the uterus, and damage structures surrounding the uterus. Laceration or perforation of the uterus or cervix can, again on rare occasions, lead to more serious complications.

Incomplete emptying of the uterus can cause hemorrhage and infection. Use of ultrasound verification of the location and duration of the pregnancy prior to abortion, with immediate follow-up of patients reporting continuing pregnancy symptoms after the procedure, will virtually eliminate this risk. The sooner a complication is noted and properly treated, the lower the risk of permanent injury or death.

Assessing the risks of induced abortion depends on a number of factors. First, there are relative health risks of induced abortion and pregnancy, which are both affected by wide variation in the quality of health services in different societies and among different socio-economic groups, a lack of uniform definitions of terms, and difficulties in patient follow-up and after-care. The degree of risk is also dependent upon the skill and experience of the practitioner; maternal age, health, and parity;[34] gestational age;[34][33] pre-existing conditions; methods and instruments used; medications used; the skill and experience of those assisting the practitioner; and the quality of recovery and follow-up care.

In the United Kingdom, the number of deaths directly due to legal abortion between the years of 1991 and 1993 was 5, compared to 3 deaths following spontaneous miscarriage and 8 deaths caused by ectopic pregnancy during the same time frame.[35] In the United States, during the year 1999, there were 4 deaths due to legal abortion, 10 due to miscarriage, and 525 due to pregnancy-related reasons.[36][37]

Women experience pain, usually minor, during first-trimester abortion procedures. In a 1979 study of 2,299 patients, 97% reported experiencing some degree of pain. Patients rated the pain as being less than earache or toothache, but more than headache or backache. Youngest patients experienced the most pain; oldest, the least.[38] In a 1991 study of 35 18 – 40 year olds, 70% reported cramping, 45.7% reported fatigue (“tiring”), and 40% reported cutting. 34.3% of the women chose the following descriptions: tugging, pulling, aching, and intense. Women who had a previous abortion had more pain on the affective MPQ and PPI scales than did those who did not have a previous abortion.[39]

Some practitioners advocate using minimal anaesthesia so the patient can alert them to possible complications. Others recommend general anaesthesia, to prevent patient movement, which might cause a perforation. General anaesthesia carries its own risks, including death, which is why public health officials recommend against its routine use.

In rare cases, abortion will be unsuccessful and pregnancy will continue. An unsuccessful abortion can result in delivery of a live infant. This, termed a failed abortion, can occur only late in pregnancy. Some doctors have voiced concerns about the ethical and legal ramifications of letting the infant die. As a result, recent investigations have been launched in the United Kingdom by the Confidential Enquiry into Maternal and Child Health (CEMACH) and the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, in order to determine how widespread the problem is and what an ethical response in the treatment of the infant might be. A preliminary report from this investigation indicated that at least 50 babies a year are born in the UK following failed abortions after 18 weeks of gestation.[40]

Unsafe abortion methods (e.g. use of certain drugs, herbs, or insertion of non-surgical objects into the uterus) are potentially dangerous, carrying a significantly elevated risk for permanent injury or death, as compared to abortions done by physicians.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wikipedia copy, lul

also


is this picture incorrect?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is this picture incorrect?


yes, because there is no god

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Killing a baby isn't irrational? Oh right.
Technically it's not a baby until after 9 months, or after it leaves the womans vagina. But I do disagree with it.
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there are so many things wrong with that picture. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw
video demostration of an abortion
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



It is a live you are killing. Even if you "helped" the baby go to god faster, i dont think you can go back to god yourself without getting punished. That is the karma of cause and effect. The baby has its own life, and during those 9 months he/sge lives inside her/his mother's womb, he/she is dependent on his/her mother for survival. If abortion is a 1-sided thing, why is there a risk for the mother as well? Why risk your own life and kill the baby, when simple measures taken could have prevented all this from happening? Please, think of the consequences before you act.

Im not targetting it at anyone..

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