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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paupav wrote:
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I thought d12 is out it says I'm using it and I can visually see a increase in performance

So wtf?


If you are on Windows 10 it is out. (Windows 10 officially released already.)


yeah i figured but he was acting like it wasn't released yet lol

wowow I thought it was in beta.

Also this
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FSF-Windows-10


The same thing they do every release. 'Please pay attention to us! Sad'

Linux is never going to get the public usage while it is still natively unable to do most of what Windows or Mac can do. I enjoy Linux as much as the next guy, but for an everyday solution, it is not feasible.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wait for the end of the year when games that actually support DirectX 12 launch.
It will be jaw dropping.
Performance benchmarks show up to x10 speed increase in most calculations.
(this could mean double or triple performance on games as a whole, or way more detailed models and environments)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
Just wait for the end of the year when games that actually support DirectX 12 launch.
It will be jaw dropping.
Performance benchmarks show up to x10 speed increase in most calculations.
(this could mean double or triple performance on games as a whole, or way more detailed models and environments)


even to the lower end & out dated cards which is just amazing

and on the high end like you mentioned way larger scale with better fps
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atom0s wrote:
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Here is a decent overview of benchmarks done between 8.1 and 10:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3fcg3s/game_benchmarks_windows_81_vs_10/

Shows that the increase is very minimal and often times not noticeable at all. (Take aside the fact that games tested are not designed for DirectX 12, so we'll see how things fair in the future.)
But there is an increase nonetheless. That, coupled with the new UI and features... pretty good reason to upgrade.


I would not say that ~5 FPS increase is worth upgrading your OS. Let alone being an upgrade and not a reformat. His test results with all the extras pulled out:
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Batman: Arkham City   : 4-5 FPS Increase
BioShock Infinite     : 0 FPS Increase (~40 FPS decrease on low-end settings..)
Crysis 1              : 2 FPS Increase
Crysis 2              : 1 FPS Increase
DiRT 3                : 6-8 FPS Increase
DiRT Rally            : 0 FPS Increase
FFXIV Heavensword     : 0 FPS Increase
GRID 2                : 0 FPS Increase
HAWX 2                : 7-8 FPS Increase
Hitman: Absolution    : 0 FPS Increase
Just Cause 2          : 1 FPS Increase
Metro 2033            : 1 FPS Increase
Sleeping Dogs: DE     : 1 FPS Loss
STALKER: CoP          : 1 FPS Increase/Loss (Depending on settings.)
Streetfighter IV      : 0 FPS Increase
Tomb Raider           : 0 FPS Increase
Warhammer 40k: DoW 2  : 5 FPS Increase
World in Conflict     : 4 FPS Increase


This is not amazing or a game-changer to upgrade for. Not to mention results will vary per-system. Different hardware has different drivers that support Windows 8.1/10 better then others. So you may see even worse gains/losses then this, or you may see better.

I personally see no reason to upgrade to 10, especially this early on. The OS is 'new' and is going to have issues. Be it drivers, update mistakes, etc., problems will happen. (And they have multiple times already.) Along with that, people are still discovering uneasy things in 10 that Microsoft forces opt-in rather then opt-out by default, and other little things that casuals will never know to look for that they take advantage of. (For example, the fact that Windows Updates now uses a torrent based system to utilize your internet to give others updates.)

All of this is fine and dandy for a more advanced user to face and adjust settings for (after digging to find them since Microsoft buried some of them away to try and hide it.) but for a casual person that goes and buys a system from Best Buy, they are going to be taken advantage of, spied on, and such without realizing it.

I'm not interested in Windows 10 personally because of the direction they have taken the OS since Windows 8. I'm currently using Windows 7 Ultimate for my main OS, and Windows 8.1 Pro on my work system. That said, I really don't care for Windows 8.1 at all, but it was free.

For me, I'm waiting a while before ever touching Windows 10 on my own systems. Not interested in the NSA edition of Windows currently.
free fps for upgrading to a free os. I don't see the problem altough I am waiting a week for ms to fix the major bugs
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waiting is the smart thing to do if you want an easy experience.
Even though I have had no problems other than having to manually configure the UI because the settings were not 4K ready, I have had no problems at all.
But some of my friends do tell me that the nVidia driver fails on some cards and AMD driver.. well (>AMD driver)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
Waiting is the smart thing to do if you want an easy experience.
Even though I have had no problems other than having to manually configure the UI because the settings were not 4K ready, I have had no problems at all.
But some of my friends do tell me that the nVidia driver fails on some cards and AMD driver.. well (>AMD driver)

Can confirm that with amd drivers, either my gpu doesn't work or the Win. 10 ready ones causes me to BSOD after ~20 seconds of startup. This is on a laptop, though; my main computer with Nvidia is flawless and smooth, no complaints here.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had a single problem so far. I did an upgrade, rather than reformat then install. So I've got all my shit still and the drivers are working fine, games are running fine, everything's perfect Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I haven't had a single problem so far. I did an upgrade, rather than reformat then install. So I've got all my shit still and the drivers are working fine, games are running fine, everything's perfect Very Happy





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LOL posted this in the wrong thread and quoted the wrong post


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just used tablet mode for awhile on my tablet, BOY IT IS GLITCHY. My tablet seemed much more fluid using the desktop experience. The video app kept crashing, other apps from the microsoft store became broken when I put it in tablet mode.

It is impossible to exit out of fullscreen on a youtube video while in tablet mode. The task bar covers up the "Exit fullscreen" button, and it is impossible to pull up the onscreen keyboard and hit ESC without exiting out of your webbrowser. (tablet mode only allows one app to be on the screen at a time). In other words, youre fucked if you only have a tablet with no keyboard if you go fullscreen

Here is what I mean about the taskbar not going away in fullscreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think ur a weaboo m8
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SEMI FUCKING SUCCESS
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That isn't the uTorrent 2.2.1 logo. I thought 2.2.1 was the current best?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That isn't the uTorrent 2.2.1 logo. I thought 2.2.1 was the current best?

utorrent is pretty adware now
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found no need or reason to update lol and i have it configured from a year ago to be adfree/non adware

they keep asking me to update but i know what it means if i do
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

potaters wrote:
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That isn't the uTorrent 2.2.1 logo. I thought 2.2.1 was the current best?

utorrent is pretty adware now
Indeed.
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