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Geri
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If you have to wait in line at the post office, then logically, killing people who are standing before you in the line is a good solution.
The purely logical thinking is not the best solution in most of real life situations.
In this example, ripping is done by people who care about the results only (eg having a working trainer whatever is the cost), while making it from scratch is done by people who like the challenges and want to improve their skills and learn.
A decent printer will print out any book in a matter of minutes, but none of the printers will write a best-seller book. If you change the cover of the book and replace the author's name with your name, that will not make you a real best-seller writer either, even if you want to pretend to be.
Your example fails in this situation because if he would be in a room, he wouldn't know how to get what he want. He only knows how to follow others, which means he will not be the only one or the first one to get it.
The easiest solution is to copy but you will be stuck when there is nothing to copy. The harder solution is to learn to make your own things and succeed alone when you face a problem. So the easy way is not the most efficient way.
It doesn't hurt to think about this before you decide to be a sociopath. Or you may end up being a sociopath and yet being forced to rely on others, which is the most uncomfortable situation for a real anti-social personality.
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adaptusaaf
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Your logic is very flawed.
If your goal was to go to prison or be executed, killing people would be a good idea.
If your goal was to simply get to the front of the post office line, then going to prison/getting executed is an unacceptable result of that action, obviously.
When stealing someone elses work via the internet in a realistically untraceable and undetectable manner, there is no such negative personal repercussions, therefore it's a sound method.
The fundamental flaw in your reasoning is finding an impossible example to try and disprove a perfectly sound action. For example, if I told someone that drinking water is healthy, of course any halfway intelligent monkey would agree. But of course you get some confused individuals which will argue with reality and say that 'oh but if you try to drink 1000 gallons of water in a day you would surely die, so how could water POSSIBLY be healthy?'.
Of course, ridiculous examples is not at ALL grounds for making a point.
Going with the easiest path doesn't mean that you learn less, as more of your time will be freed up that you can later use to learn whatever is most important and valid to you, which may very well not be memory hacking.
Also I find it laughable that you are so morally against using other peoples work and seeing it as a type of handicap, when you didn't design Windows or Mac OS or whatever you're using, yet you're using it without knowing every detail of how it works, you didn't design and build the car or bike or shoes you use to travel, it's all someone elses idea. Not all of us want to become car, bike, shoe, or computer experts, yet we all occasionally need someone elses design or idea to do what we want to do such as hack a game, browse the internet, walk in harsh terrain, or travel vast distances. There is nothing wrong with it at all. Laws come into place when stealing things, however there are no laws protecting cheat tables.
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It isn't flawed as much as you think. If you steal codes, it will also have it's consequences. If you have a gun and start killing people, you will have enough time to deal with your stuff. If you get caught after it, that is a different story. If you try to steal codes to be popular or sell it (these are the common reasons) and you get caught, you will be known as a lame ripper only so you will not be popular and noone will want to buy from you, seeing that you have no skills to do anything alone and provide quality content.
| Quote: | | When stealing someone elses work via the internet in a realistically untraceable and undetectable manner, there is no such negative personal repercussions, therefore it's a sound method. |
Wrong. Rippers are caught many times, because they lack skills and they make mistakes. They are lousy thieves, not professionals.
| Quote: | | Going with the easiest path doesn't mean that you learn less, as more of your time will be freed up that you can later use to learn whatever is most important and valid to you, which may very well not be memory hacking. |
Which means you will do half-work in all your life and always just leech from others. If you can. You will fail every time when you cannot leech, which makes you a loser after all.
| Quote: | | Also I find it laughable that you are so morally against using other peoples work and seeing it as a type of handicap, when you didn't design Windows or Mac OS or whatever you're using, yet you're using it without knowing every detail of how it works, you didn't design and build the car or bike or shoes you use to travel, it's all someone elses idea. Not all of us want to become car, bike, shoe, or computer experts, yet we all occasionally need someone elses design or idea to do what we want to do such as hack a game, browse the internet, walk in harsh terrain, or travel vast distances. There is nothing wrong with it at all. |
This doesn't make any sense at all. We are not talking about the fact that he is trying to copy and make his own OS called "Mordax King OS", we are talking about the trainer only. You are allowed to use Windows but you are obviously not allowed to sell it as your own OS. He is allowed to use my work to play the game, I just don't like it that he wants to steal it and put it up somewhere as his own. These are completely different situations. If you win a race with a car or bike, you get credit for it, because it was just a tool to achieve the goal.
He doesn't need to know how is the trainer working to use it, that's the point of trainers. It isn't neccessary to reverse it to achieve your goal.
| Quote: | | Laws come into place when stealing things, however there are no laws protecting cheat tables. |
Hope you will never have any kids, because laws are not protecting them enough against parental abuse and seeing that you do not have any problems with morality, you could be a perfect abusive parent who is turning other's life into a living hell. If you do everything that is not against the law, you will turn out to be a serious maniac.
(I am not arguing with you, because I know you don't care. I just express my opinion in an open debate. And you are a bad sociopath. You should adapt to your environment and hide your true nature, not screaming about it to the world. Sociopaths are successful only until their environment is not suspecting that they are sociopaths. You have blown your cover.)
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adaptusaaf
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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you are obviously too delusional to reason with, but I'll try anyway
| Quote: | | If you steal codes, it will also have it's consequences. |
No it won't, it takes 5 minutes to change your identity online and never be traced back to the ripper. Besides, stealing codes then uploading as your own is different than just stealing codes, it's two different actions, and we are now talking about something else entirely. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to want to steal codes so they can see what codes, and where in the game, the cheats someone else found are located/how they look, to give them clues to find more. You are simply biased and in denial, and have to bring in extra actions to make the one we previously discussed seem like a bad idea.
| Quote: | | Rippers are caught many times, because they lack skills and they make mistakes. They are lousy thieves, not professionals. |
Another ignorant comment, the most professional memory cheater in the world may reverse trainers/rip things from others, you don't know this for sure, it's just your own personal perspective which has no basis in reality. Now you're stooping to wild claims because your original argument is shot.
| Quote: | | Which means you will do half-work in all your life and always just leech from others. If you can. You will fail every time when you cannot leech, which makes you a loser after all. |
Now I know for sure you're delusional, lol. Someone stealing/leeching something, again, says nothing about their skills in a place we call reality, if Dark Byte ripped your trainer and uploaded as his own, that simple action doesn't make him do half-work in all his life and always just leech from others, and fail every time he can't leech, steal', all it really does is make him be judged by you as someone doing something you don't approve of. And even if someone who stole something didn't have the skills to do what the original creator did, as long as that person reaches their end goal, then it doesn't matter. If they ever come across the problem again and can't steal/leech, they can simply choose not to pursue it (too much work to be worth it) or learn it the slow way, it's not like they are predispositioned to be lazy.
| Quote: | | This doesn't make any sense at all. We are not talking about the fact that he is trying to copy and make his own OS called "Mordax King OS", we are talking about the trainer only. |
I'm glad you caught that, it seems you're ok with using wild examples not related to trainers, like killing people at the post office, but when someone else uses vastly less extreme and vastly more relevant examples, you are ready to throw them out the window. Hmmm.
| Quote: | | Hope you will never have any kids, because laws are not protecting them enough against parental abuse and seeing that you do not have any problems with morality, you could be a perfect abusive parent who is turning other's life into a living hell. If you do everything that is not against the law, you will turn out to be a serious maniac. |
At this point I would rather be a serious maniac than a simpleton like you
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Oh GOD, geri, why are you even arguing with these morons, this guy adaptusaaf is so fuckin stupid, i can't believe he actually typed that like i have seen drunks and retards not be that stupid. Why are these two morons even not banned yet ?.
| Quote: | | Laws come into place when stealing things, however there are no laws protecting cheat tables. |
I LOL'd. You're so fucking stupid.
People like you are the reason less and less people are doing free trainers, at least i am the one who have had enough of ungrateful shitheads. If it all becomes paid, then what are stupid morons like you gonna do ? Beg, oh morons like you do that a lot. Or reinvent the wheel ? oh shit how are you gonna do that, or you are just gonna quit using trainers ?.
and this..
| Quote: | | No it won't, it takes 5 minutes to change your identity online and never be traced back to the ripper. |
You just don't know internet. It isn't as safe as you think. If someone wanted badly, they could trace your home from your post and kill you and your family leaving you with a shocked face just tracing you from the post you made above. Of course it would need right connections but you get the point. Read up on how the fbi busted underground scene groups and those groups, my dumb friend, were really underground, they kept their shit secret but even they failed to hide.
PS: Can i get the ip of this idiot ?. So i can ban him if he already exists on my forums or stop him from coming there if he decides to.
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adaptusaaf
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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My only response to anyone I don't agree with is that they're stupid.
People listen to me because of this.
/sarcasm
| Quote: | | People like you are the reason less and less people are doing free trainers |
You mean people who steal trainers and reupload as their own? This is completely different than what we were talking about, if you're as smart as you pretend to be and we're all so stupid, how did you miss that? We were talking about simply reversing trainers or stealing work - not reuploading it as yours.
Here's an example maybe your infinite intelligence can comprehend -
If you steal a piece of art done by da Vinci from a museum, you're a thief.
If you steal a piece of art done by da Vinci from a museum and then give it to another museum saying you made it, you're a thief and a liar.
Of course, on computers stealing things are just copies - no one loses anything, like credit for their work, if they don't get reuploaded.
It's very funny how you're so passionate about keeping things moral with trainer protection, because by your logic, making trainers and giving them to people is killing the gaming community. Who wants to play online games when only a few select people can wallhack/aimbot you all the time? That's destroying the playerbase oh no! But of course, you don't care at all about others (gaming companies), only your own interests, when it comes to your own area of creative work, such as trainer making.
Not that you should, it's just paradoxically funny how sheeple like you act in these strange ways, and then almost burst a vein ranting about how you feel violated when it gets done to you.
| Quote: | | You just don't know internet. It isn't as safe as you think. If someone wanted badly, they could trace your home from your post and kill you and your family leaving you with a shocked face just tracing you from the post you made above. Of course it would need right connections but you get the point. Read up on how the fbi busted underground scene groups and those groups, my dumb friend, were really underground, they kept their shit secret but even they failed to hide. |
Lol. I said it didn't have any reprecussions realistically, not what you can come up with in your fantasy world just like geri and his post office killings. If you look at the wrong person the wrong way in the walmart checkout, they might pull out a gun and shoot you inbetween the eyes, of course, this is all -unrealistic-, do you understand that word?
Lets put on our realistic thinking caps on now - how many people have been murdered or physically injured because they stole/reversed a trainer. My point exactly.
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| Kavvman wrote: | | Oh GOD, geri, why are you even arguing with these morons |
I am not really arguing. I just said what I think about it so if a beginner is looking at the forum, he will see that we don't like this kind of attitude. We have lost enough good people because of this ripping stuff and I understand why are they not sharing sources or even trainers anymore. It has happened before not just once, I have promised to do what I can to stop it on this forum so people can sleep a bit better and not thinking that the whole world is just full of lunatics. Even after that, some people have left because of this.
Both of us and the other trainer makers know that the biggest problem with this hobby was rippers. It has hurt those groups and it is hurting this site too.
So I will just say a rule that I will enforce in my sections very strictly:
Users are putting up cheat tables/trainers in good faith that you will not try to publish the cheats as your own. If anyone steal them and get caught, I will do what I can to make his life a bit more miserable.
@adaptusaaf
I will not argue with someone who is trying to prove that sociopaths are the most awesome people in the world. If you were trolling, it is over, I will not reply to your arguments anymore. If you were serious, then you may need help because this is a mental illness that needs attention.
I understand what you say, being evil is cool and beneficial from your point of view, the only thing you forgot that a few people like you could destroy whatever is left of the community and noone would ever post cheats freely again. Then people like you could not copy anyone anymore.
Also if you try this show in my section and insult others, I will just warn you and delete your post. I don't care what you say about me but insulting and flaming others is forbidden. This is not an asylum so if you want to post there, at least pretend to be a normal person.
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Just one last thing:
| Quote: | | You mean people who steal trainers and reupload as their own? This is completely different than what we were talking about |
No, it isn't different. He said to me that he will reverse the code, put it in his trainer and give no credits. He has never asked for help before he has started ripping. The only reason of why he opened this topic is that he was stuck with it and needed help.
Just an additional information that what he is trying to steal is written in my tutorials. He would only need to read the related tutorial and make his own code based on that, but he didn't bother to ask for help with learning, he just want the working code. The code that I have made in 5 minutes but he was trying to steal for days because he doesn't understand it. The easy way right? Yes he has spared lots of time with the easy way.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Geri: Also if you try this show in my section and insult others, I will just warn you and delete your post. I don't care what you say about me but insulting and flaming others is forbidden. |
Here is some insulting/flaming you conveniently overlooked, because you only apply it to the people you dislike and are utterly ignorant when you or others on your side use even worse and more direct slander.
| Quote: | Kavvman: Oh GOD, geri, why are you even arguing with these morons, this guy adaptusaaf is so fuckin stupid, i can't believe he actually typed that like i have seen drunks and retards not be that stupid.
I LOL'd. You're so fucking stupid.
PS: Can i get the ip of this idiot ? |
| Quote: | Geri: I will not argue with someone who is trying to prove that sociopaths are the most awesome people in the world. If you were trolling, it is over, I will not reply to your arguments anymore. If you were serious, then you may need help because this is a mental illness that needs attention.
I understand what you say, being evil is cool and beneficial from your point of view, the only thing you forgot that a few people like you could destroy whatever is left of the community and noone would ever post cheats freely again. Then people like you could not copy anyone anymore.
Also if you try this show in my section and insult others, I will just warn you and delete your post. I don't care what you say about me but insulting and flaming others is forbidden. This is not an asylum so if you want to post there, at least pretend to be a normal person. |
Your biased views on what I'm doing has no weight here, anyone can simply say that someone else is trolling or trying to do something silly, no one with an objective look at this will believe your insult for a second, everyone can see right through your elementary level bashing of me as just a failed ploy to get on my nerves rather than a sincere conclusion and forfeit of our debate.
Sociopaths are known, by many studies, to hold more high level positions and succeed at their goals more than the average moral citizen. It's not an illness at all, no more than unnatural levels of creativity in a musician would be, there are many more harmless sociopaths than there are violent non-sociopaths. If you didn't just type things without understanding what they mean, you would know that a sociopath is an amoral person but not necessarily a violent person like a psychopath would be. They are very different things. When a businessman in a big company makes a deal that basically hurts the little mom and pop shops, like wal-mart frequently does, that businessman and his company succeed, even though it wasn't moral in the eyes of the townspeople. Want to guess who is winning the business wars, and where the majority of the townspeople end up shopping? Companies like wal-mart, not the over-moral mom and pop shops. So no matter what is right, or wrong, or best, or worst, this type of amoral but technically lawful behavior is a winning strategy, whether you personally like it or not (doesn't matter one iota).
| Quote: | | the only thing you forgot that a few people like you could destroy whatever is left of the community and noone would ever post cheats freely again. Then people like you could not copy anyone anymore. |
I have never ripped any trainer or anything similar. Again I am talking about reversing trainers not stealing credit, no matter what the original post said. I made that clear in all of my posts, and I understand your concern that stealing credit for something would discourage the handouts given to newbies by the experienced trainer makers. However it will not discourage the actual teaching and help given out here for learning how to make/find cheats for/ trainers, which is the real essence and value of this place.
If more rippers means less free leeching of trainers, and less newbies with infinite health or ammo hacks on various online games, then I don't see how that's a bad thing at all. We obviously have two very different perspectives on this, but it doesn't mean yours, or kavvmans, is right, even if you outnumber me. if that type of logic was sound, then I guess the religion with the most number of people would be right, or the country with the most number of people have the correct culture.
I do understand however that your ego stroking would be lessened and that would be a bad thing for you and other trainer makers who do it for the admiration of acne-faced nerds rather than their own self pride, but this is not a reason to bash a member (OP) who asked a perfectly allowed, although frowned upon by people like you, question, even if you don't want to help him.
Here's a little reminder:
| Quote: | | Geri: You are pretty much an idiot. |
I thought this was strictly forbidden? Oh, I guess it isn't when you think it's ok to do so 
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| Quote: | | Here is some insulting/flaming you conveniently overlooked, because you only apply it to the people you dislike and are utterly ignorant when you or others on your side use even worse and more direct slander. |
This topic would be not even here if it would depend on me, thus all flaming would be deleted. If you are trying to convince people to go against normal moral standards, expect similar responses. Maybe he was the first one to flame you, but you have raised the heat, even though you knew that it will bring up hatred against you. You suggest to be disrespectful towards others, so I think you should be proud that you have successfully convinced someone to act that way.
As I have mentioned, I didn't question that you can be more successful without moral issues but you are here, on a forum of a free software where people are helping each other to learn, yet you are preaching about how awesome it is to be completely selfish, thus you are attacking the foundations of this community.
Also non-violent is not equal to harmless. Yes, sociopaths are manipulating others and ruining other's lives to gain advantage. You said the right example. If you are proud of that, it is your business. I rather choose the harder way and live with my useless ability for remorse.
| Quote: | | it will not discourage the actual teaching and help given out here for learning how to make/find cheats for/ trainers, which is the real essence and value of this place |
Maybe you think so but if someone is fed up with making trainers or cheats, he will probably not even help others either. This is not an assumption, these are facts. When people stop sharing their cheats, they usually leave the forum completely. Mostly because they learn to hate people, thanks to your logic. Why would they help someone like you when their good intention is wasted as you are unable to understand the motivations behind selfless actions? It is easier to just abandon the forum.
| Quote: | | do it for the admiration of acne-faced nerds |
You are on a wrong track with this one. Not all people are doing this to be popular or something. I for one do it for the challenge and if I make something, why not post it for others to use. For people who just want to play with it. Besides I get back a lot from people who has much more knowledge than me.
If you don't like this forum or the users, you could just leave. But first you need help with something, this is why you are here. You just dug your own grave with these posts.
1. You will not convince anyone to be like you. A random forum topic is not enough for a change like that.
2. You made sure that everyone who will read your post will think twice before they would help you in anything.
3. The more you post, the deeper is your grave.
| Quote: | | I thought this was strictly forbidden? Oh, I guess it isn't when you think it's ok to do so |
I said that after he said that he will steal my code but I see that you forgot that part. I wasn't saying that for nothing. He started his topic by saying I am a
even though we didn't even talk a word before. So your argument is pretty much useless in this case.
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| Quote: | | This topic would be not even here if it would depend on me, thus all flaming would be deleted. If you are trying to convince people to go against normal moral standards, expect similar responses. Maybe he was the first one to flame you, but you have raised the heat, even though you knew that it will bring up hatred against you. You suggest to be disrespectful towards others, so I think you should be proud that you have successfully convinced someone to act that way. |
Your justifications of your self-deemed forbidden actions are hilarious. "Oh, well since I think the entire topic should be deleted, the strictly forbidden insulting others thing I said doesn't apply to me." Lol. "Also, who cares if someone else insulted you, if you upped the heat later?" It's hilarious man. Do you know what the word 'strictly' means in strictly forbidden?
| Quote: | | As I have mentioned, I didn't question that you can be more successful without moral issues but you are here, on a forum of a free software where people are helping each other to learn, yet you are preaching about how awesome it is to be completely selfish, thus you are attacking the foundations of this community. |
Wrong again, there are countless forums where people help other people with this kind of stuff, such as macroing, or on the MHJ boards or other game hacking boards without having anything to do with ego stroking from receiving credit for it. Also, you are again saying I'm doing something silly just as a ploy, there is no basis at all in your claim. It's funny that you have to stoop so low to say that I'm doing something that I'm not, and hope that I, or others, will just fall for your childish lies. As in my previous example, the businessman may have a family to feed (so not selfish for him only), or he may use his increased salary to build a school for poor kids, you seem to utterly fail at grasping this concept, just like you did with the previous same concept having to do with using someone elses work to save time and learn what is valid to you. Doing the most strategic thing is not a bad thing, even if it harms others. If all you did was the most charitable thing 24/7, you would be a complete bum and end up starving to death, since there is always someone who needs stuff more than you, yet I know you don't ship all your money to some poor families in another country.
| Quote: | | Also non-violent is not equal to harmless. Yes, sociopaths are manipulating others and ruining other's lives to gain advantage. You said the right example. If you are proud of that, it is your business. I rather choose the harder way and live with my useless ability for remorse. |
You forget that they are also helping many peoples lives (people with stocks in walmart related stuff for example or workers), of course you are too biased and delusional to take an objective and realistic look on anything at all. Of course, if there was room for everyone then everyone would own a mom and pop shop and all would be great, theres just a couple problems like limited resources on a finite planet, and continued population exponential growth. Uh oh. So who will be the people at the bottom of the food chain if the opportunity ever arises for them to move up or down it? You'd surely move down with your morals while other people would use their common sense and survive. I guess your genes are less likely to get passed on because of that fact and I certainly won't lose any sleep over it.
| Quote: | | Maybe you think so but if someone is fed up with making trainers or cheats, he will probably not even help others either. This is not an assumption, these are facts. When people stop sharing their cheats, they usually leave the forum completely. Mostly because they learn to hate people, thanks to your logic. Why would they help someone like you when their good intention is wasted as you are unable to understand the motivations behind selfless actions? It is easier to just abandon the forum. |
Maybe you think so but there are countless other forums where people don't have to make things or be owners of things or get their ego stroked in order to help other people or give out their expert advice. But nice trip back to fantasy land mr. water kills and killing is the fastest way to the front of the line. Talk about selfish lol, "I will only help people out if they reward me with praise and admiration, if people don't give me credit, $&@# them, I'm leaving the forum forever. I'm not selfish, this is selflessness! Be like me, no ego stroke, no help!"
I will personally be very happy if people like above left. Who cares about them.
| Quote: | | You just dug your own grave with these posts. |
Again we are on an online forum and I'm very aware that I've offended the simpletons. You can't go anywhere without offending the simpletons, they're like the violent muslims or the drama queen blondes of the world, if you don't fit into their tiny little status quo box of how they deem the world should be, then all of their pretending of being innocent little angels of god goes right out the window and they would give you a cold shoulder, or, as history has proven, kill you (witches, people who didn't believe in religion, but rather science, for example).
| Quote: | 1. You will not convince anyone to be like you. A random forum topic is not enough for a change like that.
2. You made sure that everyone who will read your post will think twice before they would help you in anything.
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Oh no, I just got profiled by the almighty mentalist himself. Nice one. You tugged right at my heartstrings - oh wait, my only motive here is to protect the OP and others like him from the bullying of the commoner mob, people like you. And only two people have ever really helped me on this forum, and except for one instance, it has always been Dark Byte. And I could be wrong, but I really don't think he is so passionate about protecting the ego stroking of people breaking EULAs for online games.
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I said that after he said that he will steal my code but I see that you forgot that part. I wasn't saying that for nothing. He started his topic by saying I am a
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I don't think there is anything more perfect to describe your agenda than this snippet. In a nutshell, insulting or flaming others is strictly forbidden, but instead of being civilized when others do it to you, reporting them, and keeping your posts neutral, you get all self righteous and insult/flame them right back because 'they started it, mom'. How can anyone take you seriously
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Keep digging. 
I would obviously warn someone only if the insult was without any reason. I thought it is clear that if the insult is provoked, I may see it more acceptable. Yes, the "he started" matters here. It matters everywhere.
| Quote: | | Wrong again, there are countless forums where people help other people with this kind of stuff, such as macroing, or on the MHJ boards or other game hacking boards without having anything to do with ego stroking from receiving credit for it. |
So why are you here? Your question could have been answered elsewhere too. 
And who said about getting any credits for helping? I was talking about people who are ripping trainers with their own names and trying to sell them or gain some similar advantage with other's work.
If I for example would do things for my ego, I wouldn't have a bunch of tutorials for beginners on how to start making their own cheats. They can read it and use it if they want. I get nothing for it, except more free trainers, which means less work for me if I just want to use cheats but I don't want to make my own.
| Quote: | | businessman may have a family to feed (so not selfish for him only), or he may use his increased salary to build a school for poor kids |
It would be still selfish because they would do it to have a nice cover. Why would they care about poor kids...
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You mean countless other dead forums, where you see a few posts/month. Unlike here.
| Quote: | | I will only help people out if they reward me with praise and admiration |
Yeah that's me exactly. I always act like that. You nailed it.
| Quote: | | Oh no, I just got profiled by the almighty mentalist himself. |
Haha, I am not sure that you are just a random troll or you think these things for real, but you know nothing about me except what I write here. For all we know, I could be a real sociopath who is hiding his true nature, while you could be a regular troll who is trying to play that he is a sociopath.
Either way, just keep digging. Here are some new shovels in case you need one:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ames-DH-Dig-Shovel/16877760
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| The hell is this nonsense thread? It's not a crime for wanting to RE something, but don't go flaming people you're asking help from, no matter what they replied. It isn't even anything to do with coding; it's just general respect... some life skills so you don't end up as a complete social weirdo...?
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adaptusaaf
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You mean showing how everything you say is nonsense? Ok.
| Quote: | | I would obviously warn someone only if the insult was without any reason. I thought it is clear that if the insult is provoked, I may see it more acceptable. Yes, the "he started" matters here. It matters everywhere. |
Lol, so it's not strictly forbidden? Conveniently changing your story to fit your own personal agenda, hmm. It's forbidden unless provoked! Woohoo! I hope you never have an authoritative role in any real life arena because if everyone escalated their attacks against someone else everytime they were a provoked then every single verbal slander would turn into a shootout and half the world would be dead tomorrow. Thank goodness almost everyone has more common sense than you.
| Quote: | | So why are you here? Your question could have been answered elsewhere too. |
I did post elsewhere, lol. I increased my chances of a helpful reply by doing so.. Did you think that I didn't? Oh, well you're wrong yet again what a surprise..
| Quote: | It would be still selfish because they would do it to have a nice cover. Why would they care about poor kids...
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Why wouldn't they care about poor kids? Who says that it would be for a nice cover? We can't know for sure, some would do it for a cover, some would do it because they genuinely care about poor kids education, obviously. Individuals are different, sociopaths are no different. It's unfortunate that your ignorance incorrectly portrays them that way, but one sociopath can be extremely different from the next, just as all black, white, or brown people are not all the same in their respective groups.
| Quote: | | You mean countless other dead forums, where you see a few posts/month. Unlike here. |
No they are quite active, some extremely more active than here. I'm curious now if a single snippet of your post is going to turn out halfway correct.
| Quote: | | Yeah that's me exactly. I always act like that. You nailed it. |
That part wasn't directed at you at all, I said I would be happy if those people left. I knew you had previously claimed to do it for the challenge and not the admiration. The issue at hand was that you also claimed that people would leave if their credit got stolen. I was showing how, if people leave for having credit stolen, their motives are for admiration, which is basically a form of having their ego stroked, a type of mental reward from others which they will refuse to further help if said other group doesn't keep stroking their ego. Be gone with them is my opinion.
Now that you know what I said, after I said it the second time, hopefully we can all move on from having to repeat the same things over and over to you until it finally 'clicks'.
| Quote: | | Haha, I am not sure that you are just a random troll or you think these things for real, but you know nothing about me except what I write here. For all we know, I could be a real sociopath who is hiding his true nature, while you could be a regular troll who is trying to play that he is a sociopath. |
It's funny you call me a troll so much but you're posting shovel pictures from wal-mart, lol. By the way, you could be Oprah Winfrey and I could be an alien from mars, for all we know. For all we know, I could be in your brain right now causing you to dream all this. Do you see where I'm going with this? "For all we know' is about the most useless form of fantasy land there could be in a logical debate. You seem to visit there quite a lot after I post instead of responding with anything in context.
Hey look I can post pictures too.
http://synthesis.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/crazy-oprah.jpg
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| Quote: | | Conveniently changing your story to fit your own personal agenda |
I am not changing it, I would delete any flaming, but I wouldn't give warning if it was provoked. If it was unprovoked so someone was just flaming "for fun", then it is more serious. It isn't hard to understand it I guess.
Trying to play lawyer on a simple forum is a waste of time so I won't bother with this.
Even if some people are making trainers to gain fame or anything, at least they are doing it. A "thank you" isn't much for their work and if it matters to them, why not. After all they do a favor. It's still much better than not having trainers at all. As for what are they doing with 1000 "thank you", no idea. But if they are collecting them, who cares, I will say it.
I call you a troll because it is hard to take you seriously.
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There's nothing wrong with thank you's, but refusing to help people for free because there are always some individuals who would abuse their work is simply ignorant of the way the world works, and if they throw a fit and leave because of these select few people then that is their own emotional immaturity problem. People can't be expected to tip toe around these drama queens.
As for you, first you insult someone calling them an idiot. Then you say insulting people is forbidden. Then you call me a troll. Then I call you out on your self righteous violation of your own rule and you say that it's ok if it's provoked. Then I say you change your story, adding the provoked part conveniently after realizing you broke your own 'forbidden' rule, and then you deny that you did this in the above post.
These are not opinions these are the facts of what you've said in this very thread. You're an outright liar backed into a corner resulting from defending a losing position on how to behave as defined by yourself and violated by yourself. Because of this, there is no reason to reply or read anything you have further to say as you will simply lie or change things in order to keep attacking people when they ask questions or defend people asking questions on a forum for asking questions, simply because you do not like them and obviously will never have the decency to admit it and try to hide in delusions of grandeur self righteousness. You're also a particular type of fake know it all that seems to think that all sociopaths are bad people, all people trying to learn to reverse trainers are evil and trying to steal credit(even if some are) and deserve bashing and an unwelcome response here, and that all people who don't agree with you are trolls because you lack the ability to take anyone but yourself or people on your side seriously. So now that you have been unveiled as a hormonal simpleton, I hope you have fun trying to discourage people with questions you don't like.
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