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C-Dizzle
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:47 am Post subject:

Konata Izumi wrote:

All aborted fetuses' souls go to heaven when they are aborted. This means that they weren't even exposed to the possibility of sinning and going to hell. So... all abortionists are saints or angels. amen

Well when you are conceived you have original sin and that is forgiven when you are baptized. This means that they do not go to heaven. If you have read the divine comedy they go to the first circle of hell where they are not punished butt hey will never meet God.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:13 am Post subject:

Dialgar wrote:

Konata Izumi wrote:

you mean how that bitch eve got out of the kitchen and stole the apple?
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C-Dizzle
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:53 am Post subject:

[/quote]you mean how that bitch eve got out of the kitchen and stole the apple?[/quote] That may be the most epic version of that story ever!

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:31 am Post subject:

Konata Izumi wrote:

I know this is a troll, but I'm currently incredibly bored and tired so I'm going to warrant this with a reply.

Hypothetical:
Just because they didn't have the possibility of sinning doesn't automatically grant them access to 'hell' does it?
In the same regard they haven't had the opportunity to do anything good, so why go to heaven? They're supposed to be complete opposites, one good and one bad, however what happens to those on the borderline?
Surely heaven isn't a trash can for those who just weren't quite evil enough.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:36 am Post subject:

So pretty much Viral, spritually talking, they're ghost? Little baby ghost?

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:21 am Post subject:

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject:

Of course they should have the right to abort, it's there right as a person to choose whether or not they have a baby, to choose whether they have sex, to choose what the want to do with their bodies, if they didn't have that right we wouldn't be a very free country now would we? _________________

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject:

Helios The Titan wrote:

Of course they should have the right to abort, it's there right as a person to choose whether or not they have a baby, to choose whether they have sex, to choose what the want to do with their bodies, if they didn't have that right we wouldn't be a very free country now would we?

Because, y'know, the whole world lives in the same country.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject:

Notepad wrote:

No, Unless of course they were raped.

But abortion because you "accidentally" got pregnant isn't right in my opinion.

It takes a few years to prove someone guilty of rape, which last time I checked was longer than 9 months.
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject:

elpacco wrote:

It takes a few years to prove someone guilty of rape, which last time I checked was longer than 9 months.

hahaha if only the world worked so perfectly

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject:

Not opening the portal to a new born life? These kids have the right to be brought into this world, to a new beginning , a new life. Through the rough and hard times, they're meant to be here for a reason. How would you feel if sombody executed you're life? Not to shabby. This is why we have adoption. _________________

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject:

Augustine wrote:

The point being whether it's murder or not, right? If you get down to it, what makes us human is our consciousness. A fetus does not posses any form of consciousness yet, not like we experience it anyway though. So can it really be considered human? No. And if it isn't human, it doesn't have human rights. And if it doesn't have human rights, it may be killed humanly if it has an adverse affect on another human being.

In short, it's up to the female carrying the fetus. Because if removing a fetus is murder, then so is their period.

I dare you right now, go kill a fetus with your bare hands.
I FUCKING DARE YOU.
If you did it, you're fucking gross and this argument is over.
If you didn't, then this argument may continue and the scales will be tipped in our favour.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject:

Salt wrote:

Not opening the portal to a new born life? These kids have the right to be brought into this world, to a new beginning , a new life. Through the rough and hard times, they're meant to be here for a reason. How would you feel if sombody executed you're life? Not to shabby.

This is why we have adoption.

"How would you feel if sombody executed you're life? Not to shabby."
If someone executed my are life as an aborted fetus?
I'm pretty sure you have no memories of being inside your mother, you wouldn't even have a consciousness at the point.
Makes no difference whatsoever.

Babies are here because their parents want them to be.
There's no divine reason they're meant to be here.

Also, adoption is primarily for children who have lost their parents.
That's sick, having a baby just to give it to an orphanage.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject:

Notepad wrote:

Augustine wrote:

That must be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, I won't even explain why.

Dialgar is completely right.
Also are you serious about the video? I'm considering watching it.

For future reference, please refrain from calling my point of view 'dumb'. And if you criticize someone, providing constructive criticism is a common decency. There is nothing more redundant than stating something is not to your liking, without providing an explanation.

cokefag wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I'm not saying you should kill a fetus if it was not necessary for it to die. But if I were living on a low budget with seven kids, and we were expecting number eight, I would have no problem preserving my families status quo by killing the fetus. I'm just putting things in perspective here. I would never take life needlessly. But if one, not yet human, life would have a negative effect on another human being, then I will take it.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject:

Viral wrote:

Notepad wrote:

Augustine wrote:

That must be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, I won't even explain why.

Dialgar is completely right.
Also are you serious about the video? I'm considering watching it.

Please, explain.
What Augustine said was valid in my opinion.

Are you kidding?

There's a bit of a difference between killing a fetus and someone having their period.
For one you aren't killing someone.

elpacco wrote:

Notepad wrote:

No, Unless of course they were raped.

But abortion because you "accidentally" got pregnant isn't right in my opinion.

It takes a few years to prove someone guilty of rape, which last time I checked was longer than 9 months.

I didn't say that the person needed to be found guilty did I?

I simply meant that if the woman knows that she got pregnant by the person that raped her then she's got all right to abort it.

Last edited by Notepad on Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:11 pm; edited 1 time in total

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