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Konata Izumi · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject:

i updated it. its $1260 now.

Shota · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject:

why you have two cpu cooler?
this psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

Ndure · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject:

Seems fine, however I would probably change your psu to something like these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

These ones would most likely be more stable since they have single 12v rail unlike the antec one you've chosen which has 3.

Prices are about the same I believe.

Codeslinger · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject:

I've always gone with cheap power supplies and haven't been disappointed. It's not like your computer is going to get a higher quality flow of electricity... the power is either there or not there, and buying a PSU is kinda like taking a gamble where the more you spend, the less chance it has of failing. Honestly it's gamble worth taking... newegg isn't going to deliberately sell PSU's that have a 90% fail rate, and chances are you're not going to be the unlucky one who gets a DOA PSU.

But I'd suggest a better graphics card because it doesn't matter what you need it for... your needs could easily change, and you don't know for sure that they wont.

Maybe the only reason you don't play other PC games is because you simply couldn't before... but now that you have basically every game besides PS3 and 360 exclusives available to you, it's gonna be a lot harder to pick what games to play.

If you have $1200 to spend, spend that much on a computer... it's worth it. It's not like you should get a cheap computer now so you can save your money to buy a good one later... you are probably not going to get another computer for a *long* time.

Basically what I'm saying is that it just doesn't make sense to spend all your money on the parts that don't matter. I'm sure plenty of you would argue simply because that sounds "wrong", but it is more *certainly* true. Graphics card and CPU are essentially the only two things that matter... the rest of the computer just determines whether or not they are going to function properly.

If your $500 GPU and $300 CPU function properly on a $60 motherboard with $30 RAM in a $20 case... exactly what benefit are you going to get from spending more on those "connecting" parts? Motherboards need to be compatible with the CPU you intend to use, but they don't have their own speed that increases with price. They have overclocking options, but again that is something that is either there or not there -- you can't spend more money on it to directly get more speed like you can with a GPU or CPU.

So spend all your money on getting the best GPU (I'd wait for the geforce 300 supposedly around the corner) and CPU, then spend just enough on the connecting parts (mobo, ram, case, psu) to make them function.

Seriously the 750w power supply? Even the midrange geforce 8500 gt doesn't need more than a 300w power supply with average computer parts. Upgrade to a 9800 gtx+ and you might need 400-450w, but I just can't even imagine a build that would require a solid 750w... that's beyond overkill.

Most importantly, research, research, research... don't click that "submit order" button until you can't physically wait any longer.

Konata Izumi · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject:

its a 650 watt psu, and its the same price as the 550. i may get a 4890, and the mobo is as cheap as i could get.
and i want to oc to 3.4ghz stable. will the crucial 1066 ram do the trick?

Codeslinger · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject:

Alright yeah I was thinking that the core 3 (easier than typing i5/i7/i9 and i think there's even an i3 planned) motherboards might have a high minimum price.

Sounds like you know what you are doing though

Zarr · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject:

Konata Izumi · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:05 am Post subject:

so i moved it down to an i5 system with a 5850. i want to overclock to 3.4 ghz stable, will this ram do the trick?
and i need a good 1156 cpu cooler, any reccommendations?

Zarr · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:41 am Post subject:

RAM looks good.

This board is $18 cheaper than the one listed after rebate, has almost identical specs and more rear ports (+2 more USB, 1x eSata, 1x S/PDIF).

I'd suggest an XFX 5850 over as Sapphire 5850; the price is the same, however XFX has a double-lifetime warranty whereas Sapphire only offers a 2-year warranty.

CPU's good, however, as superweapons suggested I'd order it from microcenter and save $40 over Newegg.

HDD is good.

Corsair PSUs are not to be underestimated - their 550W psu will power the build every bit as well as the 650W and is $30 cheaper after rebate with promo code EMCMLLM64. The 5850 uses a tad less power than the 4890 and the i5 CPU line is quite efficient as well.

TN panels inherently suck; bad viewing angles and poor color reproduction compared to IPS. IPS panels cost a bit more, however, so whatever floats your boat.

Case is good.

Not sure that I have an opinion on the HSF. Haven't been keeping up with them lately.

superweapons · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:33 am Post subject:

The i5 750 deals is B&M (in-store) only, which is why Newegg isn't completely out of business with the i5/i7 processors yet.

The HD5850 looks amazing, similar TDP as the HD4870, so I might be able to get away with my current 400W Corsair CMPSU-400CX PSU. Sweet! The only thing on my mind is the location of the dual 6-pin PCIe power connectors; it could be an issue if your card is laying right against a hard drive cage like my GTX 260 setup is. I'll probably jump this until AMD ATI or NVIDIA releases something 3x faster than my current card.

Anyways, back on topic. I'd go with the CMPSU-550VX as Zarr suggested. Oh, and power draw is similar to the HD4870 as I stated earlier, not the HD4890 (according to Anandtech).

TN panels are fine if you can take both of those issues. Viewing angle is generally not a big problem if you're just going to be gaming, nor is color range (usually 6-bits per channel +FRC rather than 8-bits per channel) unless you're going to be getting into graphics design. The mid-ground seems to be the PVA/MVA panels which offer good color (full 8-bits per channel), viewing angles close to IPS panels, and sometimes, a response time as good as TN panels, while still staying cheap enough for the mainstream market. IPS is still too expensive for the most part, although it's just about unparalleled in its class. 8-bit color, best viewing angles, and good response times too with the brand-new E-IPS tech (5ms black to black).

Reviews haven't been too nice to the stock Intel HSF shipping with the i5. Some people say up to some 50C idling. I've yet to see many aftermarket HSFs for the LGA1156 platform.

Konata Izumi · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject:

does anyone know of a good 1156 cooler?

Hero · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject:

If you are only playing steam games, again, you can skip out the video card untill a later time. My crappy intel chipset can run steam games at a playable rate.

Konata Izumi · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject:

DarkEnvy · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: