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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, a .tmp file in the clipboard will be a raw uncompressed (essentially a bitmap) file.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed it is.

Saves them as a 'scrap' file, but the data is essentially RAW, as it can be passed into most programs (by paste or whatever) that will understand its structure.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tofuli wrote:
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Just save ur Screenshots in paint as .png
png is my favourite format.
TRANSPARANCY FTW!


Dude, did you read the first post?

I didn't ask which format to use..

I know, but didn't you read the replys to the first post?
This is just showing you that you can save a screenshot in paint without having an enormous file.

/facepalm...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trucido wrote:
tofuli wrote:
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Just save ur Screenshots in paint as .png
png is my favourite format.
TRANSPARANCY FTW!


Dude, did you read the first post?

I didn't ask which format to use..

I know, but didn't you read the replys to the first post?
This is just showing you that you can save a screenshot in paint without having an enormous file.

/facepalm...


Dude, I'm not stupid..
png is the best format!

Enough of this.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That depends entirely on what you are trying to achieve.
.PNG doesn't have the best filesize for example. A .gif would. Although you would lose some quality in the image, but still keep the transparency.
There are many different ways you can save JPG's. Provided you have the right plugins for a program such as photoshop for example, you can create files that rival the quality and size of PNG's.
Then there is TGA etc. So many. You can't just say "this filetype is the best".
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That depends entirely on what you are trying to achieve.
.PNG doesn't have the best filesize for example. A .gif would. Although you would lose some quality in the image, but still keep the transparency.
There are many different ways you can save JPG's. Provided you have the right plugins for a program such as photoshop for example, you can create files that rival the quality and size of PNG's.
Then there is TGA etc. So many. You can't just say "this filetype is the best".


Yes.. it is true..

But what I meant is, I think .png is the best format to save screenshots, that you are going to upload somewhere.
If we add the file size to the quality (+ it is viewable on all OS.. unlike TGA, without proper plugins..)

BTW.

"... A .gif would. Although you would lose some quality in the image..."

some.. is quite.. umm.. the wrong.. word..

I would say a lot.. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering why jpegs are so abundant these days, when a PNG doesn't use that much more space and gives far better quality, with 5-25mbps connections being standard (depending on your locale), it's not that big of a deal to have big pictures. Sure jpg's still have their place, in places where quality is an issue, or pages loaded with images, but I just can't stand the compression artifacts Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheetah wrote:
I'm wondering why jpegs are so abundant these days, when a PNG doesn't use that much more space and gives far better quality, with 5-25mbps connections being standard (depending on your locale), it's not that big of a deal to have big pictures. Sure jpg's still have their place, in places where quality is an issue, or pages loaded with images, but I just can't stand the compression artifacts Confused


True..

.png has a better compression..

But when we want high res photographs, we use jpg.. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Psych] wrote:
That depends entirely on what you are trying to achieve.
.PNG doesn't have the best filesize for example. A .gif would. Although you would lose some quality in the image, but still keep the transparency.
There are many different ways you can save JPG's. Provided you have the right plugins for a program such as photoshop for example, you can create files that rival the quality and size of PNG's.
Then there is TGA etc. So many. You can't just say "this filetype is the best".


A GIF supports only 256 colours; however a PNG with 256 colours will generally have a lower file size than the same GIF, which proves that PNG generally has better compression, at least. It lacks animation though ;_;

I can't wait until APNG (animated PNG) takes off. It's already in the Beta version of Firefox 3. Smile

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Print Screen format is BMP (bitmap).


dude.. u think BMP can be 140kb?
It's actually 3,5mb..
HAHAHA.. with a resolution of 1440x900..
you are way off.

Tho, it can be it saves it as a .bmp.tmp
and that messenger really compresses it into a jpeg..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print_screen wrote:
Newer-generation operating systems using a graphical interface tend to copy a bitmap image of the current screen to their clipboard or comparable storage area, which can be inserted into documents as a screenshot. Some shells allow modification of the exact behavior using keys such as control.


I presume that Windows Live Messenger converts it to a JPEG which explains the short delay on slower machines (like mine Confused) that you get between pasting into the text field and it appearing in the conversation window as a tmp.jpg.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I thought too..

Messenger must have a jpg compressor built-in.

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