Cheat Engine

appalsap · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject:

Proprietary software companies release software (and more importantly, drivers!!) in X-bit version only, preventing people from switching. F/OSS does not have this problem.

Cheetah · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject:

Pseudo Xero · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject:

majick · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:37 am Post subject:

XDarkAnubisX · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:

32 bit its better and easier...XD

Dark Byte · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

32-bit apps will run faster on a 32-bit OS (64-bit os is slower for win32 apps because it has to continuesly switch from 32-bit mode to 64-bit kernelmode for each api call that requires something from the kernel. Like gdi)

the difference in speed can be quite noticable

also, if you're talking about Windows, 64-bit also takes away your freedom of choice on what to run on your computer. You can only run microsoft approved stuff. If microsoft doesn't want you to run it, you won't be running it

,,!,,(-.-),,!,, · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject:

I have a 64bit processor but i run 32bit windows.

kikin12 · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

so 32 is for normal people
and 64 is for gamers?

shady253 · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject:

Cheetah · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject:

Dark Byte · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject:

64-bit is more suitable for servers and specialized software.
it does allows a process to allocate memory than 2GB ram without having to bother yourself with calling api's to swap in and out a specific block of memory with the other one.
32-bit Pentiums can use 64GB of ram (when PAE is enabled) but to access that you'll have to use a specific api to map the upper 4GB+ ram, which causes a bit of overhead.

But for games, as long as they don't need more than 2GB and need it all at the same time, then there's no real need for 64-bit

Bannedjsin95 · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

shady253 · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject:

linden · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:05 am Post subject:

32bit, for M$ Windows, if you want any freedom.
Like DarkByte said, on 64bit, you can't freely run any program you want. M$ decides what will, and what won't run on your PC. You can't easily hack the kernel and run rootkits on your favor. If you're an individual, kernel driver development environment sucks! 'cause you can't even run a driver you wrote yourself. You can't have inline assembly in your C codes too, which is absurd Evil or Very Mad

If you're concerned about cheating/hacking online games, INCA GameGuard or any other anti-cheat vendors wins the game. They are incorporated, they can sign their driver and get their hands into the kernel, but we can't. That already is a great disadvantage. In addition, they can buy special license from M$ to use special set of security related API's (which M$ promised) that are not open to the public!

64bit Windows sucks for game hackers, virus writers and rootkit programmers. And I want game hacks, unsigned drivers, rootkits, and even virus Very Happy

, on my PC, so I won't move to 64 bit until I find a way to have all these things on 64bit environment.

BTW, 32bit Vista sucks too, if you have any unsigned drivers running, it will refuse to play any high definition contents. Security sucks Very Happy

Don't be fooled by Vista's security features. When M$ talks about security, they are talking about security for contents and software industry, not security for individual end users! Sorry to go off topic.

NuclearPowered · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:

for now, 32bit is the way to go, I just bought 1 more gb of ram ontop of my 2gb ram,
32bit Vista and XP can theoratically handle 4gb ram but also some memory has to be preserved for the BIOS and stuff so it is cut down to 3gb RAM.

I already had 2x1gb ram and just bought 2x512mb ram to go in my 2 remaining slots to make up 3gb ram with 4 cards YAY!

In a year or 2, 64bit will be standard and all programs will be made for 64bit so don't worry.

Like you need more than 2gb ram nowadays...
Even Crysis only uses like 700mb