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A Gay example of how to undetect CheatEngine for newbies
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Should i update this gay example ?
Yes it helps newbies
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No, it sucks
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the_undead
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SunBeam wrote:
Fun, but not a proof of concept after all. We should have Moose make one such GameGuard. Kasper always posts retarded crap.

Did you see what he wrote it in?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with this, can we make simple program to use gameguard (the real and the latest one) to fast check if the program is getting detected?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dami3n wrote:
with this, can we make simple program to use gameguard (the real and the latest one) to fast check if the program is getting detected?


This doesn't even do anything. It detects Cheat Engine by looking for 'CheatEngine.exe' and thats it. Just rename your CE exe to something else.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiccaan wrote:
Dami3n wrote:
with this, can we make simple program to use gameguard (the real and the latest one) to fast check if the program is getting detected?


This doesn't even do anything. It detects Cheat Engine by looking for 'CheatEngine.exe' and thats it. Just rename your CE exe to something else.


i acutally failed this one lol, it's Cheat Engine.exe, and i searched for CheatEngine.exe rofl, so this gay gaurd wont detect anything.

soon i'll make a better version anyways
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lolz. Anyone could make something like this. How about you try using RPM to read the memory of every process and look for the string 'Cheat'? Or you can just hook ReadProcessMemory so Cheat Engine won't function.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember Kasp posted a crackme with this type of detection one time.

Kasper, don't try to detect using a process name or any commercial protection. Try what rapion said. You might want to make a dll in c++ to detect.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blankrider wrote:
I remember Kasp posted a crackme with this type of detection one time.

Kasper, don't try to detect using a process name or any commercial protection. Try what rapion said. You might want to make a dll in c++ to detect.


Good idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kasp, I just replaced GameGuard With a dumb vb dummy and it works. LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dnsi0 wrote:
Kasp, I just replaced GameGuard With a dumb vb dummy and it works. LOL


of course it will lol, it's just rev 1337 XD
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a real GG, it just detects CheatEngine.exe, right? Wink

Why is everyone calling you Kasp?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acim wrote:
This isn't a real GG, it just detects CheatEngine.exe, right? Wink

Why is everyone calling you Kasp?


yeah lol, in Rev 1990 i'll make it harder

Names people can call me:

Kaspersky
Kas
Kasper
KisKas
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Names people can call me:

Kaspersky
Kas
Kasper
KisKas
Rotem
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Kaspersky or Kasper pwns Kas and KisKas!

Speaking of making CE undetected though, why is making a UCE different for different revs? I would've thought it's all the same: replace detected strings, but they have tuts for rev 800+, 1000+, etc. o.O

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The newer GG Revs hook more functions, so the tuts are there to get past the hooks.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaspersky wrote:
yeah lol, in Rev 1990 i'll make it harder

Names people can call me:

Kaspersky
Kas
Kasper
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Searching for text strings is stupid in an emulated GameGuard. You need to add hooks, more hooks, some hooks on the hooks, and then a nice crash sequence.
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