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Brillia · Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:13 am Post subject: Do you guys believe in Aliens?

Are we alone in this universe? Planet Earth?

Channel GannoK · pffrt Reputation: 130 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 608

the universe is seemingly infinitely large, and multiverse theory is more than plausible at this point, at least to me given the public studies and papers produced by theoretical physicists and firms.

BreakinGods · Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:21 pm Post subject:

Yes because infinitely means everything that happens has already happened.

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clash of clans hacks · Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject:

A while ago I got real high in a park in Amsterdam with a friend and we were listening to Prison Song by System of a Down and singing along, but when the part came where he goes 'Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world' I accidentally said 'secret worlds around the war' and both our minds got blown into space.
Imagine if there are actually like tons of other planets with really advanced civilizations relatively close to our planet but we haven't been able to find them yet because they use some kind of cloaking device because our planet is used as the battleground for a war that has been going on for millions of years and they can't attack each other directly because they know that as soon as one of them does that, they'd break the treaty of peace and it would trigger a massive universal war that would destroy everything (kind of like the situation on Earth now, if for example North Korea decides to attack the USA it would trigger WWIII and it would mean the end for humanity as we know it), so they chose one planet to send genetically modified single-celled organisms and biological weapons (viruses) to and have them battle it out there.

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Up2Admin · Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject:

I believe there's other sentient beings somewhere out there. Maybe even in the same galaxy as us. But I don't think we could even find such life, let alone contact them, within the next several centuries.

The incredible vastness of our universe makes it hard to believe that there wouldn't be any other life within it.

br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

no because of the Great Filter & Fermi Paradox

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br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

if there was more intelligent beings then they would have gone through other stages and by means of probability one of the intelligent beings would be at a similar point in advancement that they would have similar forms of communication that would eventually reach us via radio waves in the vastness of space, somewhat similar to parallel evolution. just by probability there should be other beings at the same level as us, so its ridiculous to think they wouldn't have tried to contact us by now

I also have no reason to believe that even if they did some crazy ass way of communication that we cant think of that they wouldnt also have something as basic as radio communication or to be able to detect our own shit from far distances

as for them ignoring us: thats just part of the fermi paradox, but I still think of it in terms of the great filter (the explanation for the fermi paradox), theres no reason that advanced beings wouldnt have advanced morals or some concept of saving the universe, making them want to intervene with us when we come close to having enough power to destroy large things like galaxies or dimensions but only time will tell for that. and considering lifespan will be increased so much in our lifetime we will be able to find out, if something like the great filter doesn't end us first

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br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

yes but not every single evolution would be guided the same way, surely there'd be one group that would want to influence our evolution. unless theres some kind of galatic superpower UN basically that prevents these things. its a pretty grand assumption that every single group of advanced beings is on the same moral level and are guided the same way. plus dont discourage humans ourselves, im sure if there was something like this we would have some kind of evidence for it by now.

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br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 36

assumption is the basis of science. everything must start somewhere. you start with an assumption based on observances. considering we can only only think within our own context, then all of our assumptions will be based on our own observances and beliefs, anything we think is only within the limits of our own minds. you talk about extra dimensional communication, and since you think its illogical that we should have proof, then the thought of it itself is only assumptions.

if you want to assume flying unicorns exist on Jupiter then you can do so, and then you can work on the technology to prove or disprove it. if you assume extra dimensional communication is the future step of communication and that other beings have reached it, then the next step is building the technology to prove or disprove that assumption.

since everything we're talking about here is only assumption based on our own observances, and also our own beliefs since any theory on other intelligent life is just as feasible as the next until something concrete has been found, then assumptions are the entire basis of this discussion, we're not doing research we're only throwing around ideas that we believe.

we can't completely prove anything exists, we can't prove our own existence, but we have to assume we do in order to further the research on it, otherwise we'd get nowhere