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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, for a webbrowser, sure it would work...

But where the practice in that? The control does all the work for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sure, dragging in a timer that constantly uses CPU power to call on windows APIs is more practicing than to use an event driven system which is much easier and more efficient.

That's like saying you would rather climb up an 80 story building to get to a crucial meeting rather than taking the elevator.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The cpu power a timer uses is beyond minuscule, I'm saying you can only use that method in such cases as a "web browser". What are you going to do when you require action without having your program in focus?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
slovach wrote:
The cpu power a timer uses is beyond minuscule, I'm saying you can only use that method in such cases as a "web browser". What are you going to do when you require action without having your program in focus?


It would be rare that an web browser would need to do such a thing, but in the case you need it too you would use the other method. Always use the most efficient method possible, memory is not unlimited. Alot of people seem to think there is this black limitless void where you can store all of your data, there isn't.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
slovach wrote:
What are you going to do when you require action without having your program in focus?


http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646309.aspx

slovach wrote:
The cpu power a timer uses is beyond minuscule, I'm saying you can only use that method in such cases as a "web browser".

Intel would be really happy if all of the programmers thought like you, for people will need the latest multi-core processors to just be able to run a webbrowser that will be refreshing on every hit of the return button.
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Ah I didn't even know such an API existed, definitely good to know, I'm all for learning new things.

But aren't you over-reacting a bit about the whole timer shit? Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nope, not overreacting. What that code does is abuse multi-threading. Just imagine if all programs are coded in such a way, instead of waiting for a message, the program would check at certain intervals if something has happened. This would not only decrease performance, but also decrease the responsiveness of programs.

Another analogy:

Doing what that code does is like waiting for a mail to arrive by running down the stairs to check every 1 minute rather than waiting for the door bell.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


Wtf is Hello World V2 ?

What else can be approved in Hello World ?

Try Making a 3D Game with Grapgic Accelerator or Make a DirectX Window Similiar to DXwnd.

Or, make a game like Need For Speed Carbon,make a program like Google Earth...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


A definate must.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DeltaFlyer wrote:
That wastes CPU power.

Just add something like this to the event handler that does the handling for key down:

Code:

if Key = Chr(13) then
 {do whatever}

Or
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if Key = #13 then
 {do whatever}
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


Wtf is Hello World V2 ?

What else can be approved in Hello World ?

Try Making a 3D Game with Grapgic Accelerator or Make a DirectX Window Similiar to DXwnd.

Or, make a game like Need For Speed Carbon,make a program like Google Earth...


My question to you is: Have you done any of the stuff you listed there?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flyte wrote:
Kaspersky wrote:
BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


Wtf is Hello World V2 ?

What else can be approved in Hello World ?

Try Making a 3D Game with Grapgic Accelerator or Make a DirectX Window Similiar to DXwnd.

Or, make a game like Need For Speed Carbon,make a program like Google Earth...


My question to you is: Have you done any of the stuff you listed there?


No.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kaspersky wrote:
BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


Wtf is Hello World V2 ?

What else can be approved in Hello World ?

Try Making a 3D Game with Grapgic Accelerator or Make a DirectX Window Similiar to DXwnd.

Or, make a game like Need For Speed Carbon,make a program like Google Earth...
yet again, kaspersky displaying his grammar skills...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
gamesguru wrote:
Kaspersky wrote:
BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


Wtf is Hello World V2 ?

What else can be approved in Hello World ?

Try Making a 3D Game with Grapgic Accelerator or Make a DirectX Window Similiar to DXwnd.

Or, make a game like Need For Speed Carbon,make a program like Google Earth...
yet again, kaspersky displaying his grammar skills...


Dude getfo'ta here....dont mind anyone grammar on the net ok ? especially here...

who gives a shit about peoples grammar ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kaspersky wrote:
gamesguru wrote:
Kaspersky wrote:
BRONiUS wrote:
Hello World v2.


Wtf is Hello World V2 ?

What else can be approved in Hello World ?

Try Making a 3D Game with Grapgic Accelerator or Make a DirectX Window Similiar to DXwnd.

Or, make a game like Need For Speed Carbon,make a program like Google Earth...
yet again, kaspersky displaying his grammar skills...


Dude getfo'ta here....dont mind anyone grammar on the net ok ? especially here...

who gives a shit about peoples grammar ?

good grammar is good for the community Rolling Eyes
same as healthy candy = doesnt exist Razz
get what i mean?
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