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| HackOtaku wrote: | | Disagree. GoT was a solid show from s1 to s4. It used to subvert tropes intelligently. Like Ned losing his head instead of some last minute thing saving him because of his flaw of always being noble. Same with Robb losing his life and wife and army at the red wedding. Unpredictable but it makes sense given the promise he broke and the type of person Walder Frey is. If they subverted a trope it at least made sense and had build up. |
if youre saying the show is good just bc it subverted tropes and was unpredictable then youre literally agreeing with me. I said people could say its the best show of all time and I wouldnt care because tv shows are shit anyways. So by saying its good bc it just didnt do absolutely generic shit like every other show is basically agreeing with me.
Just because everything is shit and this one is shit with sugar on it doesnt make it taste good.
I also would disagree that the show was unpredictable, if you don't come in with preconceived notions about what a show should be then a lot of the plot points are obvious and are going to happen because they do usually foreshadow everything (Its obvious the red wedding would happen, they built it up, rewatch the show) or make it something logical. my friend that I watch the show with has basically been predicting everything thats going to happen, and I personally have never felt surprised by anything in the show. I even expected Arya (my least favorite character in the show, her plot line was so fucking SHIT and boring every fucking time it came on) because GoT always shoves main characters in your face, so when she didnt have any screen time or explanation about what she was doing specifically, just from the context of this episode, it was obvious she was going to come back and do something, and it was obvious that she was the ONLY one that could have done something in that moment (besides bran possible having super powers) because they showed every other main character be incapacitated
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Brolock wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | Disagree. GoT was a solid show from s1 to s4. It used to subvert tropes intelligently. Like Ned losing his head instead of some last minute thing saving him because of his flaw of always being noble. Same with Robb losing his life and wife and army at the red wedding. Unpredictable but it makes sense given the promise he broke and the type of person Walder Frey is. If they subverted a trope it at least made sense and had build up. |
if youre saying the show is good just bc it subverted tropes and was unpredictable then youre literally agreeing with me. I said people could say its the best show of all time and I wouldnt care because tv shows are shit anyways. So by saying its good bc it just didnt do absolutely generic shit like every other show is basically agreeing with me.
Just because everything is shit and this one is shit with sugar on it doesnt make it taste good.
I also would disagree that the show was unpredictable, if you don't come in with preconceived notions about what a show should be then a lot of the plot points are obvious and are going to happen because they do usually foreshadow everything (Its obvious the red wedding would happen, they built it up, rewatch the show) or make it something logical. my friend that I watch the show with has basically been predicting everything thats going to happen, and I personally have never felt surprised by anything in the show. I even expected Arya (my least favorite character in the show, her plot line was so fucking SHIT and boring every fucking time it came on) because GoT always shoves main characters in your face, so when she didnt have any screen time or explanation about what she was doing specifically, just from the context of this episode, it was obvious she was going to come back and do something, and it was obvious that she was the ONLY one that could have done something in that moment (besides bran possible having super powers) because they showed every other main character be incapacitated |
That's a fair point too. In the earlier seasons I was definitely watching with an expectation of a typical fantasy series and it caught me off guard at first but in a way that I can look back and see it coming, which made me uncertain about who could die when. But looking back I cant really say the writing was phenomenal or anything either. And I agree they made their own "twist " too obvious with both showing every other named character incapacitated and the god awful music build up. I should just read books
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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it's your opinion that something was foreshadowed. even if the show runners say the same thing, well you'er just a retard liek them. im always rigte
lmfao what a way to bury yourself
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| Brolock wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | Disagree. GoT was a solid show from s1 to s4. It used to subvert tropes intelligently. Like Ned losing his head instead of some last minute thing saving him because of his flaw of always being noble. Same with Robb losing his life and wife and army at the red wedding. Unpredictable but it makes sense given the promise he broke and the type of person Walder Frey is. If they subverted a trope it at least made sense and had build up. |
if youre saying the show is good just bc it subverted tropes and was unpredictable then youre literally agreeing with me. I said people could say its the best show of all time and I wouldnt care because tv shows are shit anyways. So by saying its good bc it just didnt do absolutely generic shit like every other show is basically agreeing with me.
Just because everything is shit and this one is shit with sugar on it doesnt make it taste good.
I also would disagree that the show was unpredictable, if you don't come in with preconceived notions about what a show should be then a lot of the plot points are obvious and are going to happen because they do usually foreshadow everything (Its obvious the red wedding would happen, they built it up, rewatch the show) or make it something logical. my friend that I watch the show with has basically been predicting everything thats going to happen, and I personally have never felt surprised by anything in the show. I even expected Arya (my least favorite character in the show, her plot line was so fucking SHIT and boring every fucking time it came on) because GoT always shoves main characters in your face, so when she didnt have any screen time or explanation about what she was doing specifically, just from the context of this episode, it was obvious she was going to come back and do something, and it was obvious that she was the ONLY one that could have done something in that moment (besides bran possible having super powers) because they showed every other main character be incapacitated |
I will expand on this thought though. The main trope they subverted was plot armor, at least in my eyes for the earlier seasons. This gave some semblance of risk for the battles. They've really thrown it away with how everyone just keeps surviving stupid decisions now.
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I think theyve created their own trope by making the show (or maybe its the same in the books) this way. basically any time theres a fuckton of characters and the plotline becomes convoluted they kill off the ones that have no relevance to the direction they want the plot to go.
now this doesnt sound like a trope, and just normal story telling mechanism, until you think about how nothing serious happens in the show until that trope happens. they basically have no way to drive the plot if they DIDNT kill those characters.
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Brolock wrote: | I think theyve created their own trope by making the show (or maybe its the same in the books) this way. basically any time theres a fuckton of characters and the plotline becomes convoluted they kill off the ones that have no relevance to the direction they want the plot to go.
now this doesnt sound like a trope, and just normal story telling mechanism, until you think about how nothing serious happens in the show until that trope happens. they basically have no way to drive the plot if they DIDNT kill those characters. |
I feel like both Ned and Robb had avenues to explore still when they were killed off. Part of why I maintain the earlier seasons were good. Now they all have plot armor until they complete their arcs. Takes away the realism that the universe once had.
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | I think theyve created their own trope by making the show (or maybe its the same in the books) this way. basically any time theres a fuckton of characters and the plotline becomes convoluted they kill off the ones that have no relevance to the direction they want the plot to go.
now this doesnt sound like a trope, and just normal story telling mechanism, until you think about how nothing serious happens in the show until that trope happens. they basically have no way to drive the plot if they DIDNT kill those characters. |
I feel like both Ned and Robb had avenues to explore still when they were killed off. Part of why I maintain the earlier seasons were good. Now they all have plot armor until they complete their arcs. Takes away the realism that the universe once had. |
just don't hold out on the small chance that the 3 episodes left could surprise u for the better
death is half meaningless on got anyway
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| wait ser jorah died??
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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so yeah ser jorah died they reminded us this episode in the opening.
i cant wait for teh 4th dragon to show up
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Ye, he died after teleporting behind Dany to save her. Honestly I don't care about this series anymore, it's only good for making fun of with my friends.
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | Ye, he died after teleporting behind Dany to save her. Honestly I don't care about this series anymore, it's only good for making fun of with my friends. |
r u starting to understand why i gave up giving this show my full attention
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Never gave this show any attention. It was written by a wiener loving old fat man
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Channel GannoK wrote: | | Never gave this show any attention. It was written by a wiener loving old fat man |
wiener loving never stopped you before
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | Ye, he died after teleporting behind Dany to save her. Honestly I don't care about this series anymore, it's only good for making fun of with my friends. |
r u starting to understand why i gave up giving this show my full attention |
You didn't even watch/don't remember when the series was good though.
| Channel GannoK wrote: | | Never gave this show any attention. It was written by a wiener loving old fat man |
All writers have serious mental problems.
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