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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read art of war, then future of the mind by Michio Kaku brolock. Then you'll learn everything I'm after.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
Read art of war, then future of the mind by Michio Kaku brolock. Then you'll learn everything I'm after.
ill put that near the top of my list since its probably an easy read and seems short, and b/c if it touches on AI like wiki says then i should actually read it bc im interested in going into that field

speaking of AI, i wanna read this as well
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/epistemological/epistemological.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
Channel GannoK wrote:
Read art of war, then future of the mind by Michio Kaku brolock. Then you'll learn everything I'm after.
ill put that near the top of my list since its probably an easy read and seems short, and b/c if it touches on AI like wiki says then i should actually read it bc im interested in going into that field

speaking of AI, i wanna read this as well
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/epistemological/epistemological.html


just read this http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html

no need to waste time through the anecdotes

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antagonist wrote:
Brolock wrote:
Channel GannoK wrote:
Read art of war, then future of the mind by Michio Kaku brolock. Then you'll learn everything I'm after.
ill put that near the top of my list since its probably an easy read and seems short, and b/c if it touches on AI like wiki says then i should actually read it bc im interested in going into that field

speaking of AI, i wanna read this as well
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/epistemological/epistemological.html


just read this http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html

no need to waste time through the anecdotes
its too late ive already read the introduction in my book that goes through chinese history and terminology that takes up more than half the book. the terminology and translation stuff is actually helpful tho
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:59 am    Post subject: This post has 1 review(s) Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
talix what english version of quran do you recommend, i will read it at some point (after Art of War, St. Augustines Confessions, Critique of Pure Reason) because i like to have a general knowledge of things


honestly, with english you're going to have to inevitably find tafsir at some point, in which case nouman ali khan is really good for that, especially finding them on youtube via bayyinah

www.quran.com has multiple translations, especially for english.
i use all of them to compare. even then i must rely on tafsir.

a local masjid may have a qur'an WITH tafsir in the margins.
i actually have taken about 20 quran, maybe more from my masjid, and given them to several individuals.

my mother has three of them, all different translations, one with tafsir.


Yusuf Ali, Sahih, and Pickthall are good.

but Pickthall (and potentially all without proper study) have some translations that have been taken issue with

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For example the verse 5 in the Repentance chapter (in Arabic) says:

((فَاقْتُلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُواْ لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ)) التوبة الآية 5

((faktoloo almoshrikeena haitho wagattomohom wa khothohom wa ehsoroohom wa ake’do lahom kolla marsad)) The repentance, Verse 5

You can refer the article named (The Repentance chapter) to know the reason of these verses and what is meant from them. Anyways the translation of Mohammed M. Pickthall was as follows:

((slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush)) Quran 9:5 Pickthall

This did not specify the Meccian soldiers. It is easily known (to us) that the idolaters meant in this verse are the Meccian soldiers and not all idolaters for all times, but this fact will not be known for a (non- Muslim) who is reading the translation of the Quran for the first time. So from my point of view it was better to be translated as follows:

((slay the pagan Meccian soldiers wherever you find them, take them captives, besiege them and prepare for them each ambush)) The noble Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 5

So the one who is quoting this verse from the translation of the Quran will understand that it a story and not an order for all the times and places. Another problem in Pickthall’s translation of the Quran is his translation of the following noble verse:

))جعل الارض قرارا )) النمل الآية 61

((Ga’l Al-arda karara)) The ants, Verse 61

He translated it as follows:

((Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode)) Quran 27:61 Pickthall

So the enemies of the Quran accused us on believing a book that says that the earth is fixed and does not move. From my point of view the noble verse should be translated as follows:

((HE made the earth a resting-place)) The noble Quran, Chapter 27, Verse 61

Another problem was his translation of the story of Zul-Qarnain (the man with two Horns). He translated it in a way that gives an impression that the Quran says that the earth is flat and that Zul-Qarnain reached the extreme west of earth. It also gives an impression that the Quran says that the sun-setting place in the universe is a hot water!!!!!!

There are so many other examples, but it will be so long to mention all of it.



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It's over Talix. I have the high ground.


ok sun tzu, maybe it's time you should recognise that as the mercy of your previous defeats.

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Islam has no place in the future of humanity. (see also: other religions), fun to think about, unwise to follow as divine law.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2986315/islam-will-overtake-christianity-as-the-worlds-largest-religion-by-2070-new-research-reveals/

68.7% of the world abrahamic in the future, 54.6% just 7 years ago

we were, are, and will be the majority. islam is the future.
وَرَأَيْتَ النَّاسَ يَدْخُلُونَ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ أَفْوَاجًا


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think about it, Islam is mainly for faggots.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: This post has 1 review(s) Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
If you think about it, Islam is mainly for faggots.

Allahu akhbar, I'm a full convert now

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This forum is full of so many independent critical freethinkers

I'm not being sarcastic

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This forum is full of so many independent critical freethinkers

I'm not being sarcastic

Fuck you, no were not

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
If you think about it, Islam is mainly for faggots.

Allahu akhbar, I'm a full convert now
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtube watch zIx1VE-A3Uc

tl;dw BBC plays video about ISIS, which is obviously not meant to be played /just yet/

before ISIS even takes responsibility



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone knew this was ISIS before anyone claimed credit, lmao.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talix is right, it's a false flag. The British government knew the attack was gonna happen, could have stopped it, but they want to instill fear. This doesn't excuse Islam for being the key motivator for the actions of these people. That's all there is to it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
Talix is right, it's a false flag. The British government knew the attack was gonna happen, could have stopped it, but they want to instill fear. This doesn't excuse Islam for being the key motivator for the actions of these people. That's all there is to it.


to speak on what you're ignorant of is unethical, there was no motivation from islam.

sincerely, someone who knows how islam motivates
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting you both believe it's a false flag. I'm not saying one way or the other, but could you give me some reputable sources about that?
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