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| Monkeys wrote: | | MFWG wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | No one is backing up TIG saying hes a good fucking person, of course he made bad choices, but that doesn't mean hes stupid for doing so.
And again, weak minded has nothing to do with this, you've got to understand that he wasn't weak minded, he had SO MUCH access to drugs, if he was weak minded he would have overdosed and died.
Tell me when you guys try heroin and then just walk away.
As for getting into them in the first place, dustin never aimed to be taking heroin daily, it happened because he became addicted, thats what a substance does to you, it has nothing to do with the choice you made.
But, no one can say he couldn't have stopped before even taking heroin, when he could have realized that his life style wasn't going so good, when he stopped caring about school. Those were all bad decisions that could have been prevented, but because they weren't, it led to his addiction and the life style that he now has. |
But it has everything to do with the choice he made, his addiction was a result of his choice to take it in the first place.
Which is one of the reasons I will never take a strong addictive drug.
I have not been addicted to cigarettes or smoking or weed so something inside of me tells me I probably might not possibly get addicted to one but the chance is enough for me not to try one. Especially when I am satisfied enough with what I already take.
Although I am addicted to alcohol but it is a lesser as it does not have as many consequences as hard drugs can possibly have.
Long story shot am pussy by choice and some would say its a smart choice, just as they would say that taking hard drugs is a stupid choice.
Also lol long lines of text, huuur duuuur. This thread needs to die now it has kindled too long and is kinda boring don't you think  |
Alcohol is a hard drug, and the consequences of alcohol addiction are horrible. Don't be mistaken about that. |
Beat me to it; alcohol is actually a worse long-term addiction than hard drugs themselves, the complication that makes addicts worse off is the lack of Government control and regulation resulting in attached crime and unhealthy impurities/instruments depending on your ROA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, what I meant by "as many consequences" but didn't quite specify was that there isn't as many consequences with law enforcement/law and society.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm back finally at my computer and I still see no continuation of your claim brolock. and I never said dustin was a bad guy, because I like him.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| GannoK wrote: | | I'm back finally at my computer and I still see no continuation of your claim brolock. and I never said dustin was a bad guy, because I like him. |
you never replied with anything that I can reply to. i dont know what you want me to say
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Brolock wrote: | | more like, a super habit could be seen as an addiction, and thats why you clearly don't know the definitions of words |
that was the last thing you said and it's clearly not how things work
and I wanted you to show me how the english dictionary definition I gave you is the same as the one you have, because you said it's the same just in different wording when it's clearly not
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I already replied to that and explained it.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Brolock wrote: | | I already replied to that and explained it. |
and then I made the point that in your definition it said that these people can't cope with the addiction. well that's a personal issue not being able to handle this.
| Code: | | the person is unable to control the aspects of the addiction without help because of the mental or physical conditions involved |
This clearly is something beyond addiction. They can not control the aspects of addiction. it does not say that the person can not control themselves because of addiction. It is saying they can not control the effects that it has because of some weird fucking reason. Not everyone is like this
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| MFWG wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | No one is backing up TIG saying hes a good fucking person, of course he made bad choices, but that doesn't mean hes stupid for doing so.
And again, weak minded has nothing to do with this, you've got to understand that he wasn't weak minded, he had SO MUCH access to drugs, if he was weak minded he would have overdosed and died.
Tell me when you guys try heroin and then just walk away.
As for getting into them in the first place, dustin never aimed to be taking heroin daily, it happened because he became addicted, thats what a substance does to you, it has nothing to do with the choice you made.
But, no one can say he couldn't have stopped before even taking heroin, when he could have realized that his life style wasn't going so good, when he stopped caring about school. Those were all bad decisions that could have been prevented, but because they weren't, it led to his addiction and the life style that he now has. |
But it has everything to do with the choice he made, his addiction was a result of his choice to take it in the first place.
Which is one of the reasons I will never take a strong addictive drug.
I have not been addicted to cigarettes or smoking or weed so something inside of me tells me I probably might not possibly get addicted to one but the chance is enough for me not to try one. Especially when I am satisfied enough with what I already take.
Although I am addicted to alcohol but it is a lesser as it does not have as many consequences as hard drugs can possibly have.
Long story shot am pussy by choice and some would say its a smart choice, just as they would say that taking hard drugs is a stupid choice.
Also lol long lines of text, huuur duuuur. This thread needs to die now it has kindled too long and is kinda boring don't you think ;) |
You. You're the worst kind of person. The type of person who thinks weed is bad but alcohol is okay. I'm fine with people who choose not to smoke weed. I'm fine with people who choose not to drink. I'm fine with people who choose to smoke and not drink, and people who choose to drink and not smoke. But someone who decides to drink and not smoke because they think that smoking is bad for you and that alcohol isn't as bad is a full blown fucking retard.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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You're just using it as an excuse. If you have the option to choose whether or not to keep doing a drug even though you know you're addicted, it's your fucking choice and it can be stopped any time. Stop hanging out with people that sell you those drugs. get rid of their contacts, and don't reply to them. move yourself away from where it is you think you could do drugs. unless it's literally being forced into your body by an outside factor, you have the fucking choice to overcome your addiction.
The success rate of rehab is a fucking joke, and i showed you the actual percentage rate in a study made dustin. Going to rehab to get better is not going to do a fucking thing. You have to want to get better and just stop fucking doing drugs
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But when you go through an epiphany and actually go through with your plan of doing that, it works. the only time it doesnt work, is when you dont fucking even try to do what I said
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Why not? It's what I did, and it worked for me
you dont have to go to rehab to become clean of addiction
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| TheIndianGuy wrote: | | GannoK wrote: | Why not? It's what I did, and it worked for me
you dont have to go to rehab to become clean of addiction |
it was already explained that you're not a drug addict... brolock and i already explained to you what a drug addict is yet you don't get it. |
and I just pointed out the fallacy in his explanation and definition, you don't get it.
and have you ever heard of josh hamilton?
he was addicted to heroin and alcohol and he got fucking clean by himself because he wanted to and decided to play baseball like a fucking man. sure it was because he found god through his grandmother or w/e the fuck he believes in, but he was an addict and there is no fucking possibly way for you to say he wasn't. He got better because he fucking chose to get better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Hamilton
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| kyle just doesnt know what words mean, he uses fallacy and addiction completely incorrectly.
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| TheIndianGuy wrote: | | GannoK wrote: | | TheIndianGuy wrote: | | GannoK wrote: | Why not? It's what I did, and it worked for me
you dont have to go to rehab to become clean of addiction |
it was already explained that you're not a drug addict... brolock and i already explained to you what a drug addict is yet you don't get it. |
and I just pointed out the fallacy in his explanation and definition, you don't get it.
and have you ever heard of josh hamilton?
he was addicted to heroin and alcohol and he got fucking clean by himself because he wanted to and decided to play baseball like a fucking man. sure it was because he found god through his grandmother or w/e the fuck he believes in, but he was an addict and there is no fucking possibly way for you to say he wasn't. He got better because he fucking chose to get better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Hamilton |
i'm just going to end up talking in circles and repeating what i said so it's pointless. you're not going to understand.
i knew someone that was a daily user of meth. started out well, doing better in school, becoming a better drummer, being able to do shit for hours a day. he found himself addicted to meth. then it got all bad and began to ruin his life. one day he realized he didn't want to use anymore, he felt disgusted when he'd be driving around monday morning trying to pick up a sack, not showered in days, being all grimy and sweaty. he was able to stop on his own. he WASN'T a drug addict, however, he was addicted to meth. |
This does highlight it as well as it ever will be if Kyle can read into it enough.
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That is seriously the dumbest fuckig thing I've ever read Dustin I'm sorry. A METH ADDICT IS NOT A DRUG ADDICT. Really? The keyword here is fucking addiction and addict.
And Brolock you didn't even reply to my response. You're just saying I don't know how to use words. I pointed out that in your definition, it's implying that an addiction is something that someone can't handle the aspects of (addiction). That just doesn't fucking make any sense.
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