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Slugsnack
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol you're not cool for knowing about this stuff. the sooner you realise that and start living your life in a smart way, the better
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

potaters wrote:
Slugsnack wrote:
but you always brag about your knowledge of these exclusive russian groups of 'real' hackers where access costs at least a few k$ lmao. come on, admit it you think you're a little cool at least Wink

I think you are thinking of the Citadel botnet.
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/01/citadel-trojan-touts-trouble-ticket-system/
You can read about the 'social network' like plugin development there. That does cost around 4k to get into. But of course I think I'm semi-cool Cool
I use google translate and shit.
you just expressed your superiority complex
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reading CEF threads these days really makes me rage

gotta be honest, almost rustled my jimmies
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
BLVCK wrote:
ItsJustJosh wrote:
Only name I recognized was xVisceral

This is the part where I say sucks for him and move on.

He was a good guy. We talked in the PHP section a lot. I had seen a lot of those other guys around, joshthegod was the leader of the group that hacked 4chan a little while ago.

they're not 'cool' or 'good guys'. just because they are nice to you does not change the fact that they are stealing from either a person or a bank. you might think OH SHIT STEAL FROM THE BANK NO BIG DEAL IT'S A HUGE CORPORATION AND NOBODY GETS AFFECTED. well not really, they just raise premiums in their own way to counteract that so all the regular customers get fucked over. stop associating with these people. being an outlaw isn't cool. picking up the soap bar in prison is even less cool. i understand that it feels funky that you're in this special underground scene that others aren't aware of but don't try to believe that doing shit there has no repercussions irl

get a real job or study hard and get there. don't give me that bullshit saying carders, etc. can get same amount of money as working man because it's simply not true. there is a huge inherent risk involved. in the right industry within 2 years, a working man under 25 can earn $1m+. how many 'hackers' can you say can do that and get away with it? stop. just stop this shit.

it doesn't matter whether you actually participate in these activities. you should not be associating with these people. if shit comes down, do you want to be involved? i know shit tonne of people involved with triads they believe they can 'call on' if they're in trouble or they just hang with them. don't think that association comes scot-free. at best you're wasting a lot of your time and at worst when shit hits the fan your ass is partially on the line. stop wasting your time with stupid shit that's not going to help you in your life and focus on the priority right now (probably studying). there's my advice. you can be a dumbass and ignore it if you like, but take it from someone older than you that has gone through similar stuff.


10/10 would read again. Best lead in to a troll I have ever seen on here. Though seriously, I don't know many (I don't even know if I know one) person that earns that much money per year.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do. Come at my mesos. It's not my fault that OP is too noob to understand the system and play with it. PROTIP: not everyone is Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. If you want to have a successful career then work hard. For majority of people, this means try hard academically

OP is a pet. I'll get back to this and expand later when I'm free
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
I do. Come at my mesos. It's not my fault that OP is too noob to understand the system and play with it. PROTIP: not everyone is Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. If you want to have a successful career then work hard. For majority of people, this means try hard academically

OP is a pet. I'll get back to this and expand later when I'm free

I concur. I'm not a genius like those guys who quit school and go on to make millions. I have to study and work hard to learn the things needed to make money. But now I'm almost done, and the work I've put into those years and years of studying have not been wasted.

That said, the people who quit school and go on to make a lot of money are less than one percent. The people who get their degree and make a lot of money exceed that number by a lot. At least here in the Netherlands. There is a severe shortage of engineers of any kind, so job opportunities exist everywhere. Below a (Google) translated article from two years ago, but the situation has not changed:

http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fmijnbedrijf%2F7953521%2F__Tekort_aan_hoogopgeleiden__.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aviar³ wrote:
Slugsnack wrote:
BLVCK wrote:
ItsJustJosh wrote:
Only name I recognized was xVisceral

This is the part where I say sucks for him and move on.

He was a good guy. We talked in the PHP section a lot. I had seen a lot of those other guys around, joshthegod was the leader of the group that hacked 4chan a little while ago.

they're not 'cool' or 'good guys'. just because they are nice to you does not change the fact that they are stealing from either a person or a bank. you might think OH SHIT STEAL FROM THE BANK NO BIG DEAL IT'S A HUGE CORPORATION AND NOBODY GETS AFFECTED. well not really, they just raise premiums in their own way to counteract that so all the regular customers get fucked over. stop associating with these people. being an outlaw isn't cool. picking up the soap bar in prison is even less cool. i understand that it feels funky that you're in this special underground scene that others aren't aware of but don't try to believe that doing shit there has no repercussions irl

get a real job or study hard and get there. don't give me that bullshit saying carders, etc. can get same amount of money as working man because it's simply not true. there is a huge inherent risk involved. in the right industry within 2 years, a working man under 25 can earn $1m+. how many 'hackers' can you say can do that and get away with it? stop. just stop this shit.

it doesn't matter whether you actually participate in these activities. you should not be associating with these people. if shit comes down, do you want to be involved? i know shit tonne of people involved with triads they believe they can 'call on' if they're in trouble or they just hang with them. don't think that association comes scot-free. at best you're wasting a lot of your time and at worst when shit hits the fan your ass is partially on the line. stop wasting your time with stupid shit that's not going to help you in your life and focus on the priority right now (probably studying). there's my advice. you can be a dumbass and ignore it if you like, but take it from someone older than you that has gone through similar stuff.


10/10 would read again. Best lead in to a troll I have ever seen on here. Though seriously, I don't know many (I don't even know if I know one) person that earns that much money per year.
its a bit of an exaggeration but some jobs make a shit ton like petrol eng 120k with only BA/BS
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That kind of salary is approx top 1%. Given the amount of lazy fucks around, achieving this is realistic if you go to a good uni (work hard!!) and choose to be in a well paid profession.
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