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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: I'm a curious idiot. Reply with quote

So, humans have a very small affect on climate change, seeing as less than 1% of Carbon Dioxide is from human activity (correct me if I'm wrong), how could we fix the issue? Would it be a matter of creating super trees to devour the extra and try our best to regulate it in a way that doesn't damage our oceanic conveyor belt? Or is CO2 not the big issue, but the amount of water vapor in the air the real issue; both are green house gases, but I'm not sure which is better at trapping in sunlight. If water vapor is the issue, I'd see that as odd, because the #1 source of this is the sun; but our star has slightly dimmed, and the flares have cooled.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like adding wool to a blanket, it's just getting thicker over time, humans accelerate that A LOT.
If you're looking at in on a year-to-year basis then sure we tacked on another 1% to the increase or whatever it is they say, but project that exponential addition into 100, 1000 years and everything's severely off.

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stopped reading after the second comma

He said correct him if he's wrong, implying that he's indirectly citing shit he's heard and he's aware that it could be all bullshit.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
It's like adding wool to a blanket, it's just getting thicker over time, humans accelerate that A LOT.
If you're looking at in on a year-to-year basis then sure we tacked on another 1% to the increase or whatever it is they say, but project that exponential addition into 100, 1000 years and everything's severely off.

Talix wrote:
stopped reading after the second comma

He said correct him if he's wrong, implying that he's indirectly citing shit he's heard and he's aware that it could be all bullshit.

This makes more sense. But still, why isn't water vapor a greater issue?

And Talix, I was asking for help, if you think I'm an idiot, explain why and answer my question or get out.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alreiger wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
It's like adding wool to a blanket, it's just getting thicker over time, humans accelerate that A LOT.
If you're looking at in on a year-to-year basis then sure we tacked on another 1% to the increase or whatever it is they say, but project that exponential addition into 100, 1000 years and everything's severely off.

Talix wrote:
stopped reading after the second comma

He said correct him if he's wrong, implying that he's indirectly citing shit he's heard and he's aware that it could be all bullshit.

This makes more sense. But still, why isn't water vapor a greater issue?

And Talix, I was asking for help, if you think I'm an idiot, explain why and answer my question or get out.

Water barely has an impact in comparison to carbon.
Think of a pool in the sun, the first foot or two of surface water will be warm and anything under that the heat wouldn't really reach.
If it were a pool of liquid carbon the heat would only go half an inch in or something.
I'm totally making up the amounts but it's just an illustration.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why do you give a shit
clearly if some idiots on a forum could solve the issue then it would have already been solved
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
why do you give a shit
clearly if some idiots on a forum could solve the issue then it would have already been solved

I'm challenging what I already know. I'm usually not the kind of person who gives two shits about this, but I've got a memory etched in my head about humans not doing much, and I wanted to remember. And yeah, but there's still the question of those trees (I saw a show on Discovery where they recreated an old tree that no longer grows, through a seed of a tree that was related.)

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What's your excuse? Surprised

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talix wrote:
Alreiger wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
It's like adding wool to a blanket, it's just getting thicker over time, humans accelerate that A LOT.
If you're looking at in on a year-to-year basis then sure we tacked on another 1% to the increase or whatever it is they say, but project that exponential addition into 100, 1000 years and everything's severely off.

Talix wrote:
stopped reading after the second comma

He said correct him if he's wrong, implying that he's indirectly citing shit he's heard and he's aware that it could be all bullshit.

This makes more sense. But still, why isn't water vapor a greater issue?

And Talix, I was asking for help, if you think I'm an idiot, explain why and answer my question or get out.

>implying i care about helping you
i am not going to help an idiot that can't google

>I didn't want help with a series of questions and the ability to discuss my thoughts.
Nice try, Google can't talk to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading this in the newspaper a few years ago;
They discovered that if there is starting to get too much COČ in the air, plants could have a natural reaction to it and start growing a lot larger than they usually do, which could save the world. Or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if you seriously think google can't help you find proposed solutions to climate change, or general information on climate change and its statistics, then you're a moron.
fuck off.

I said I wanted to discuss it. I'm not going on Google to find a forum with a current discussion, that's recent, and sign up, to do there what I can do here.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still waiting on your excuse.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT'S RAINING MAD!
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IT'S RAINING MAD!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talix wrote:
Alreiger wrote:
talix wrote:
if you seriously think google can't help you find proposed solutions to climate change, or general information on climate change and its statistics, then you're a moron.
fuck off.

I said I wanted to discuss it. I'm not going on Google to find a forum with a current discussion, that's recent, and sign up, to do there what I can do here.

discuss it? for what reason? to learn something? you already know we have no more to offer than what the internet can offer. you just want to show the forum how deeply you think about solving the world's problems because you're so smart
fuck off

No, I wanted to spark a discussion to talk to users about it, because you can offer an opinion as well I help. I can't solve them, but I want to know more and challenge what information I have.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just said I wanted hour opinions on it as well, get that through your head.
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