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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe that when you die, everything goes black. There is no heaven, there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing. There is no soul.
However, in some cases the brain has shown intense, rapid activity shortly before shutting down. This is probably a "dream" state and you may dream up your entire life in a matter of seconds, hence the saying "My life flashed before my eyes". This dream may even seem like some form of haven, or a nightmare.
The human brain is powerful, beyond its own comprehension.

But the idea of an afterlife or a soul is silly to say the least.
Reincarnation is a broad idea and I believe there may be some form of it. One without the idea of a soul invading a separate organism. I believe that a consciousness that ceases to exist brings light to a new one. Unfortunately I can't find any other way to put this in wording as I don't really fully understand my own view on the idea.

It all boils down to this; death is a mystery that cannot be solved. At least not with our current perception of the matter. All I know is that life has a will to live and I don't believe it to be without reason. If there was a haven after death, then why fear it?

The mind and body are one.
If you had ever mediated you'd believe in spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is all around us. It's even inside you. God, heaven, hell, they are all simple aesthetics to program the human mind, which is very susceptible might I add, to believing that there is something after death. When simply, death cannot be told for it is the greatest journey after life. I can't tell you, A.E can't tell you. Nobody can tell you. You can't even guess it. For in our current day and age we have long forgotten the priceless pieces of knowledge that should have been taught down each generation, however as time has passed we have lost said teachings. If you truly wish to be one with your self and be able to use that full amount of brain power you have. It's called DNA. In our DNA we have certain strands that are dormant, that we humans cannot use for we need special dedication and mentoring in order to fully comprehend them. For example, intuition. It is not simple godlike manoeuvres that may happen to come across such a gift. If you had ever pictured a situation that was almost impossible in your mind to happen, and it happened. Well. That isn't deductive skills. It's simple intuition.

I could write you an entire page full. But bored.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coldie ;] wrote:
Up2Admin wrote:
I believe that when you die, everything goes black. There is no heaven, there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing. There is no soul.
However, in some cases the brain has shown intense, rapid activity shortly before shutting down. This is probably a "dream" state and you may dream up your entire life in a matter of seconds, hence the saying "My life flashed before my eyes". This dream may even seem like some form of haven, or a nightmare.
The human brain is powerful, beyond its own comprehension.

But the idea of an afterlife or a soul is silly to say the least.
Reincarnation is a broad idea and I believe there may be some form of it. One without the idea of a soul invading a separate organism. I believe that a consciousness that ceases to exist brings light to a new one. Unfortunately I can't find any other way to put this in wording as I don't really fully understand my own view on the idea.

It all boils down to this; death is a mystery that cannot be solved. At least not with our current perception of the matter. All I know is that life has a will to live and I don't believe it to be without reason. If there was a haven after death, then why fear it?

The mind and body are one.
If you had ever mediated you'd believe in spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is all around us. It's even inside you. God, heaven, hell, they are all simple aesthetics to program the human mind, which is very susceptible might I add, to believing that there is something after death. When simply, death cannot be told for it is the greatest journey after life. I can't tell you, A.E can't tell you. Nobody can tell you. You can't even guess it. For in our current day and age we have long forgotten the priceless pieces of knowledge that should have been taught down each generation, however as time has passed we have lost said teachings. If you truly wish to be one with your self and be able to use that full amount of brain power you have. It's called DNA. In our DNA we have certain strands that are dormant, that we humans cannot use for we need special dedication and mentoring in order to fully comprehend them. For example, intuition. It is not simple godlike manoeuvres that may happen to come across such a gift. If you had ever pictured a situation that was almost impossible in your mind to happen, and it happened. Well. That isn't deductive skills. It's simple intuition.

I could write you an entire page full. But bored.
Ez

I'm a firm believer in human beings not using their full potential, and I'm certain we are capable of many things. But please don't try to blend in biochemistry with your personal believes to pass it off as a valid scientific theory. And if you do, at least post some references with it. I have yet to see papers from respected researchers (not the tree hugging kind that work on assumptions mostly), showing a link between meditation and the activation of dormant DNA strands.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coldie ;] wrote:
Up2Admin wrote:
I believe that when you die, everything goes black. There is no heaven, there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing. There is no soul.
However, in some cases the brain has shown intense, rapid activity shortly before shutting down. This is probably a "dream" state and you may dream up your entire life in a matter of seconds, hence the saying "My life flashed before my eyes". This dream may even seem like some form of haven, or a nightmare.
The human brain is powerful, beyond its own comprehension.

But the idea of an afterlife or a soul is silly to say the least.
Reincarnation is a broad idea and I believe there may be some form of it. One without the idea of a soul invading a separate organism. I believe that a consciousness that ceases to exist brings light to a new one. Unfortunately I can't find any other way to put this in wording as I don't really fully understand my own view on the idea.

It all boils down to this; death is a mystery that cannot be solved. At least not with our current perception of the matter. All I know is that life has a will to live and I don't believe it to be without reason. If there was a haven after death, then why fear it?

The mind and body are one.
If you had ever mediated you'd believe in spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is all around us. It's even inside you. God, heaven, hell, they are all simple aesthetics to program the human mind, which is very susceptible might I add, to believing that there is something after death. When simply, death cannot be told for it is the greatest journey after life. I can't tell you, A.E can't tell you. Nobody can tell you. You can't even guess it. For in our current day and age we have long forgotten the priceless pieces of knowledge that should have been taught down each generation, however as time has passed we have lost said teachings. If you truly wish to be one with your self and be able to use that full amount of brain power you have. It's called DNA. In our DNA we have certain strands that are dormant, that we humans cannot use for we need special dedication and mentoring in order to fully comprehend them. For example, intuition. It is not simple godlike manoeuvres that may happen to come across such a gift. If you had ever pictured a situation that was almost impossible in your mind to happen, and it happened. Well. That isn't deductive skills. It's simple intuition.

I could write you an entire page full. But bored.
Ez
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of speculating
I'mma wait and find out.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Augustine wrote:
Coldie ;] wrote:
Up2Admin wrote:
I believe that when you die, everything goes black. There is no heaven, there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing. There is no soul.
However, in some cases the brain has shown intense, rapid activity shortly before shutting down. This is probably a "dream" state and you may dream up your entire life in a matter of seconds, hence the saying "My life flashed before my eyes". This dream may even seem like some form of haven, or a nightmare.
The human brain is powerful, beyond its own comprehension.

But the idea of an afterlife or a soul is silly to say the least.
Reincarnation is a broad idea and I believe there may be some form of it. One without the idea of a soul invading a separate organism. I believe that a consciousness that ceases to exist brings light to a new one. Unfortunately I can't find any other way to put this in wording as I don't really fully understand my own view on the idea.

It all boils down to this; death is a mystery that cannot be solved. At least not with our current perception of the matter. All I know is that life has a will to live and I don't believe it to be without reason. If there was a haven after death, then why fear it?

The mind and body are one.
If you had ever mediated you'd believe in spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is all around us. It's even inside you. God, heaven, hell, they are all simple aesthetics to program the human mind, which is very susceptible might I add, to believing that there is something after death. When simply, death cannot be told for it is the greatest journey after life. I can't tell you, A.E can't tell you. Nobody can tell you. You can't even guess it. For in our current day and age we have long forgotten the priceless pieces of knowledge that should have been taught down each generation, however as time has passed we have lost said teachings. If you truly wish to be one with your self and be able to use that full amount of brain power you have. It's called DNA. In our DNA we have certain strands that are dormant, that we humans cannot use for we need special dedication and mentoring in order to fully comprehend them. For example, intuition. It is not simple godlike manoeuvres that may happen to come across such a gift. If you had ever pictured a situation that was almost impossible in your mind to happen, and it happened. Well. That isn't deductive skills. It's simple intuition.

I could write you an entire page full. But bored.
Ez

I'm a firm believer in human beings not using their full potential, and I'm certain we are capable of many things. But please don't try to blend in biochemistry with your personal believes to pass it off as a valid scientific theory. And if you do, at least post some references with it. I have yet to see papers from respected researchers (not the tree hugging kind that work on assumptions mostly), showing a link between meditation and the activation of dormant DNA strands.
Nah, he's talking about mediation, not meditation. Still doesn't make sense.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up2Admin wrote:
Augustine wrote:
Coldie ;] wrote:
Up2Admin wrote:
I believe that when you die, everything goes black. There is no heaven, there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing. There is no soul.
However, in some cases the brain has shown intense, rapid activity shortly before shutting down. This is probably a "dream" state and you may dream up your entire life in a matter of seconds, hence the saying "My life flashed before my eyes". This dream may even seem like some form of haven, or a nightmare.
The human brain is powerful, beyond its own comprehension.

But the idea of an afterlife or a soul is silly to say the least.
Reincarnation is a broad idea and I believe there may be some form of it. One without the idea of a soul invading a separate organism. I believe that a consciousness that ceases to exist brings light to a new one. Unfortunately I can't find any other way to put this in wording as I don't really fully understand my own view on the idea.

It all boils down to this; death is a mystery that cannot be solved. At least not with our current perception of the matter. All I know is that life has a will to live and I don't believe it to be without reason. If there was a haven after death, then why fear it?

The mind and body are one.
If you had ever mediated you'd believe in spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is all around us. It's even inside you. God, heaven, hell, they are all simple aesthetics to program the human mind, which is very susceptible might I add, to believing that there is something after death. When simply, death cannot be told for it is the greatest journey after life. I can't tell you, A.E can't tell you. Nobody can tell you. You can't even guess it. For in our current day and age we have long forgotten the priceless pieces of knowledge that should have been taught down each generation, however as time has passed we have lost said teachings. If you truly wish to be one with your self and be able to use that full amount of brain power you have. It's called DNA. In our DNA we have certain strands that are dormant, that we humans cannot use for we need special dedication and mentoring in order to fully comprehend them. For example, intuition. It is not simple godlike manoeuvres that may happen to come across such a gift. If you had ever pictured a situation that was almost impossible in your mind to happen, and it happened. Well. That isn't deductive skills. It's simple intuition.

I could write you an entire page full. But bored.
Ez

I'm a firm believer in human beings not using their full potential, and I'm certain we are capable of many things. But please don't try to blend in biochemistry with your personal believes to pass it off as a valid scientific theory. And if you do, at least post some references with it. I have yet to see papers from respected researchers (not the tree hugging kind that work on assumptions mostly), showing a link between meditation and the activation of dormant DNA strands.
Nah, he's talking about mediation, not meditation. Still doesn't make sense.

Ah, I misread. My point still stands though, simply replace 'meditation' with 'mediation'.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if u had meditated u wud believ in spritual anergy
srsly
i know dis
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Augustine wrote:
Coldie ;] wrote:
Up2Admin wrote:
I believe that when you die, everything goes black. There is no heaven, there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing. There is no soul.
However, in some cases the brain has shown intense, rapid activity shortly before shutting down. This is probably a "dream" state and you may dream up your entire life in a matter of seconds, hence the saying "My life flashed before my eyes". This dream may even seem like some form of haven, or a nightmare.
The human brain is powerful, beyond its own comprehension.

But the idea of an afterlife or a soul is silly to say the least.
Reincarnation is a broad idea and I believe there may be some form of it. One without the idea of a soul invading a separate organism. I believe that a consciousness that ceases to exist brings light to a new one. Unfortunately I can't find any other way to put this in wording as I don't really fully understand my own view on the idea.

It all boils down to this; death is a mystery that cannot be solved. At least not with our current perception of the matter. All I know is that life has a will to live and I don't believe it to be without reason. If there was a haven after death, then why fear it?

The mind and body are one.
If you had ever mediated you'd believe in spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is all around us. It's even inside you. God, heaven, hell, they are all simple aesthetics to program the human mind, which is very susceptible might I add, to believing that there is something after death. When simply, death cannot be told for it is the greatest journey after life. I can't tell you, A.E can't tell you. Nobody can tell you. You can't even guess it. For in our current day and age we have long forgotten the priceless pieces of knowledge that should have been taught down each generation, however as time has passed we have lost said teachings. If you truly wish to be one with your self and be able to use that full amount of brain power you have. It's called DNA. In our DNA we have certain strands that are dormant, that we humans cannot use for we need special dedication and mentoring in order to fully comprehend them. For example, intuition. It is not simple godlike manoeuvres that may happen to come across such a gift. If you had ever pictured a situation that was almost impossible in your mind to happen, and it happened. Well. That isn't deductive skills. It's simple intuition.

I could write you an entire page full. But bored.
Ez

I'm a firm believer in human beings not using their full potential, and I'm certain we are capable of many things. But please don't try to blend in biochemistry with your personal believes to pass it off as a valid scientific theory. And if you do, at least post some references with it. I have yet to see papers from respected researchers (not the tree hugging kind that work on assumptions mostly), showing a link between meditation and the activation of dormant DNA strands.

Mistyped, didn't reread. How bosses roll. I meant meditate. I'm speaking from personal experience. Meditation doesn't simply relax your muscles. If you meditate for a long enough period.. you feel things. Things that you didn't feel before.

How can you believe science when ''emotion is impossible''.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those things you feel is, like I said, a heightened sense of awareness.
As you meditate, you learn to block out certain unneeded senses, heightening the others.
And which modern scientist has ever said emotions are impossible?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>see's coldie in thread
"Oh hey, coldie's here, I wonder if he's still posting stupid retarded bullshit.."
>reads more of post
"...ahyup"
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or maybe babies just cry because they got pushed out of a fucking hole that's supposed to be a couple of inches wide
and they also don't get to live in their cozy womb anymore

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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or maybe babies just cry because they got pushed out of a fucking hole that's supposed to be a couple of inches wide
and they also don't get to live in their cozy womb anymore

Or rather, by cutting their umbilical cord, we teach them what asphyxiation is.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks
i needed to read Brave New World again.
no idea how that reminded me to.
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Monkeys wrote:
Nirojan wrote:
or maybe babies just cry because they got pushed out of a fucking hole that's supposed to be a couple of inches wide
and they also don't get to live in their cozy womb anymore

Or rather, by cutting their umbilical cord, we teach them what asphyxiation is.

Lol'd.
No, I would have mentioned heightened awareness. It's something completely different. I've once meditated for 2 and a half hours in a solid square pitch black room as part of my training for boxing. When I stepped out, I was faster, stronger, my words were spoken with caution. Believe it or not, it's simple truth. With dedication to meditation, you'll understand what I'm saying.

You can't really explain it, people are very close-minded.

edit: Also, the reason babies cry when they come out of the womb is because they are being exposed to air for the first time. You'd be a little shocked if you were breathing through water for 12 months then all of a sudden a different type of substance is flowing through your lungs.
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