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Mychilli
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple of new parts:
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-4GBXL x2
Linksys WMP600N IEEE 802.11a/b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter with Dual-Band WEP, WPA & WPA2 Personal, WPA & WPA2 Enterprise
TOTAL: $639.96

Only worry I have is the RAM is "designed for P67 motherboards," but the one I selected is Z68, would it make a difference, or does it even matter?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAM is RAM, as long as the standard is the same it will work.

I still feel that you are spending unnecessary cash. Such high memory clocks will have little to no impact in real world performance (outside of benchmarks), and with today's prices you might as well grab two 4GB sticks, as it taxes the memory controller less that way (less lanes to run). Z68 doesn't really differ that much from P67 and the motherboard you chose doesn't even have Intel Smart Response (sic), one of the major feature that make Z68 stand out.

But if you insist...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saifallofjmr wrote:
Mychilli wrote:
@[readegamingfaggotrname] 0/10 bad troll
@Saifallofjmr Like I said before, I don't have a budget with this, it's whatever I want, and I already commented on my gfx, I know it's not the best but I want to buy everything else first.
@Nevergreen. Do you happen to know when, because I need to get it all upgraded before Skyrim.
@ArcaneKnite Go raid your epic dragonz.



5770 cant even max bc2 dude

Yes it can. And at very good framerates, too. I know first hand.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phox wrote:
Saifallofjmr wrote:
Mychilli wrote:
@[readegamingfaggotrname] 0/10 bad troll
@Saifallofjmr Like I said before, I don't have a budget with this, it's whatever I want, and I already commented on my gfx, I know it's not the best but I want to buy everything else first.
@Nevergreen. Do you happen to know when, because I need to get it all upgraded before Skyrim.
@ArcaneKnite Go raid your epic dragonz.



5770 cant even max bc2 dude

Yes it can. And at very good framerates, too. I know first hand.



1920x1080 with 16xAF and 32 MSAA?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haswell wrote:
RAM is RAM, as long as the standard is the same it will work.

I still feel that you are spending unnecessary cash. Such high memory clocks will have little to no impact in real world performance (outside of benchmarks), and with today's prices you might as well grab two 4GB sticks, as it taxes the memory controller less that way (less lanes to run). Z68 doesn't really differ that much from P67 and the motherboard you chose doesn't even have Intel Smart Response (sic), one of the major feature that make Z68 stand out.

But if you insist...

Does Intel Smart Response really worth it? if you could pick me out one that you like and I'll look at it. Very Happy

Ok @Saifallofjmr, you like Battlefield, shut up about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/05/11/intel_smart_response_technology_srt/

If you could afford Intel SRT, you might as well just get an SSD as a boot drive. Like I said, not exactly worth the money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130572
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2011/05/26/msi-p67a-gd53-b3-review/1

This mobo has received decent reviews while not being priced too high. Most mobos are pretty much the same in functionality, but this one has the features of a high-end board (OC capabilities, SLI/CF, on-board buttons) while cheaply priced. Not trying to be biased, but you do get an idea of what's good/bad after testing out loads of different hardware.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Haswell Having my computer boot up in 5 seconds and games loading in 10 isn't really one of my priorities, you seem pretty set on that MSI board, so I'll have a go at it.

NEW ITEMS:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL6D-4GBXH
I picked these out instead because my buddy said that the timing was way more important than the speed, comments?
ASUS ENGTX480/2DI/1536MD5 GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Picked this out becuase someone was bitching in the thead about not having a good graphics card, and it's a badass card, maybe there's a better one for cheap, I dunno?

Thanks a ton for the help.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saifallofjmr wrote:
Phox wrote:
Saifallofjmr wrote:
Mychilli wrote:
@[readegamingfaggotrname] 0/10 bad troll
@Saifallofjmr Like I said before, I don't have a budget with this, it's whatever I want, and I already commented on my gfx, I know it's not the best but I want to buy everything else first.
@Nevergreen. Do you happen to know when, because I need to get it all upgraded before Skyrim.
@ArcaneKnite Go raid your epic dragonz.



5770 cant even max bc2 dude

Yes it can. And at very good framerates, too. I know first hand.



1920x1080 with 16xAF and 32 MSAA?

I don't know about 1080p, but at 1680x1050 and 8xAA + 16x AF, you can get 55 average, doesn't really ever go below 45. This is paired with an overclocked i5 760. And yes, I count that as maxed out, because these ridiculous AA settings are overkill, and this is a $120 card we're talking about.

@Above, get with the times already. Get a 570 or a 6970, I'm pretty sure both those cards beat the 480 in most scenarios (I'm okay if someone wants to correct me on that).

Also, timings nor speed actually make as much of a difference as you might think. In fact, the gains from overclocking ram clocks and "overclocking" the timings are usually negligible in games. I have tested different ram speeds and timings myself (from 7-11 and 1066 to 1866), and my gains in FPS from the slowest speeds to the highest speeds in several games ranged from 2-7 fps. Not very impressive. For this reason, I don't really recommend spending more money on ram that's faster or has better timings, I would just recommend getting as much ram as possible for your buck. Getting 8 gbs of ram will make much more difference than 2 ms latency. My recommendation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice catch, although i keep seeing they run pretty similar, except the 570 is better on power consumption.
Going to selected this now, any more suggestions is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That card would probably last you 2 years, which isn't bad by all means for the normal consumer. The other alternative would be a 6970, which gives more VRAM than the 570 but having lower general performance (and price), although when gaming at 1920*1080 there really won't be much of a difference regarding the memory. Also, the 570 is simply a higher clocked 480 w/ other minor improvements such as power consumption and memory controllers. Personally, I'd go for whichever offers the best price/performance ratio and according to my roadmap for future upgrades.

For your RAM, I'd really advice you to get a set of 4GB sticks instead, as this will allow future upgrades (if needed). ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445 )

Just out of curiosity, what model is your PSU? I usually won't doubt a 800w PSU, but in this case it would be better safe than sorry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RAM you set was out of stock. Sad
I'll stick with the 570, its only 30 bux more than the 480.

I'm not sure of the model of my PSU, but its a modular 700w.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This RAM then, you can save $20 after MIR -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145324

Your PSU should be fine for now, but not if you decide to install another card for SLI. Don't worry about it for now, until your next upgrade.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127555&cm_re=hd_6950_2gb-_-14-127-555-_-Product

Unlock shaders to 1536. Overclock to HD 6970 speeds and enjoy a HD 6970 at the price of a HD 6950.

The unlock works on all reference models, which is why I linked this one, but I heard it also works on the Twin Frozr II models, so if you want to get that, you can, but no guarantees.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127588&cm_re=hd_6950_2gb-_-14-127-588-_-Product
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6950 -> 6970 doesn't work any more.

@OP since you are getting the Z68 board are you getting a SSD as well? If not you're really denying that board from its full potential.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apotheoun wrote:
6950 -> 6970 doesn't work any more.

@OP since you are getting the Z68 board are you getting a SSD as well? If not you're really denying that board from its full potential.

No I decided to go with the P67 Haswell was talking about, i don't need my Windows to boot in 3 seconds.

@Saucy I like nividia cards. Sad
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