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What is considered "cheating" in programming.

 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: What is considered "cheating" in programming. Reply with quote

Sorry this is kind of off topic.

Alright as the title says , In a high school programming class what would be considered cheating?
I mean every time I get an assignment I like to look for examples on the internet or the full program running,
then from that code my own using different code and some parts of the source I was looking at if I can't figure it out on my own.
(Never have I copied any program then handed it in.)
Reason I am asking this is because in my programming the class the teacher handed out an assignment (Like every other assignment) nothing special
and I was on computer science canada's forum looking for an example program to see how the program would be put together and he took a screen shot of my screen, printed it
and sent me to the office with the paper saying I was cheating...
I mean come on I never even handed it in or started my own code yet I simply was looking at the source code.

So post your comments below thanks..
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You jumped straight to getting a solution without even trying to solve it yourself, that's the problem.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it's for an exam only when the rules explicitly state that no use of the internet is allowed.

Otherwise it's not cheating

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ slovach I don't think its cheating at all but that's just my opinion so I am asking others what they think.

@Dark byte It was not an exam just an assignment (We get one assignment per day basically). The only thing he said was not to COPY anything off the internet, the paper itself said nothing about not using the internet. So I guess he just assumed I was going to copy the code and hand it in which is not even close to what I was actually doing. He never even came to me first just took a screen shot and sent me out.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i try it myself first , then if im having trouble ill look around on the internet/books, that way im actually learning the material.

But if you just want a good grade then i guess it doesnt matter, as long as your code is different from the one you copied then no one will know.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had one simple rule at my school, you were allowed to do as much research on internet as you wanted when doing the assignments.
But the reasoning for that was merely "One cannot remember all the commands, nor he has any need since we have the ultimate source of interwebz"

Surely it was some basic coding of C++, some if's for's while's and such~

Of course you were not allowed to copy paste, i suppose you were allowed to check the commands and all what you wanted/could use...
I dont know, no one never had any accusations of cheating.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no rules that specify if we can look up or use codes from the internet, The teacher pulled me out of class today and apologized to me..
guess he was having a shitty day Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaczac wrote:
There are no rules that specify if we can look up or use codes from the internet, The teacher pulled me out of class today and apologized to me..
guess he was having a shitty day Rolling Eyes


Ok that ended quite well O.o
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can not cheat unless they state in the assignment that you are not allowed to do a certain thing. Unless you get pulled up for plagiarism
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to me like the question is 'what would flag me for plagiarism' -- which is basically anything you can't immediately understand.

A common thing for high schools to 'ban' from programming is break, exit, goto, jump, continue, etc (some of these may or may not apply to whatever language you're using)

If you can't understand it or think 'there's no chance in hell I would've come up with that', you should probably look elsewhere.


Unless your teacher is a moron or has little to no idea how to program and just tells you to read a book, in which case they probably would never notice.

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