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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: [Question] Water Cooling... Reply with quote

My friend recently got a water cooling kit fromt thermaltake and it hasn't made much of a difference in cooling. I was learning in science not sure if it would work but if he put salt in the liquid would it allow the liquid to get colder before actually freezing?

I heard lots of ways that's one I just thought up but if anyone knows how to get a massive increase in liquid temperature that would help lots!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salt only lowers the water's freezing temperature.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in order to have that work you'd already have to have water at 33 degrees f or below...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konata Izumi wrote:
in order to have that work you'd already have to have water at 33 degrees f or below...


Would ice cubes and ETC break the cooling kit if I added some to the resovoir... Were thinking a lot of stuff up... Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a super chilled pc, check out this link

http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/10/24/computer-cooled-using-a-mineral-oil-filled-fish-tank/

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HornyAZNBoy wrote:
If you want a super chilled pc, check out this link

http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/10/24/computer-cooled-using-a-mineral-oil-filled-fish-tank/

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I read about this one in some computer magazine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here's what happens.. the Sodium Chlorite (Salt) goes into the
molecules liquifying them... so it does not change the water's cooling
temperature but it does melt it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xMurtaghx wrote:
Well, here's what happens.. the Sodium Chlorite (Salt) goes into the
molecules liquifying them... so it does not change the water's cooling
temperature but it does melt it.


What are you talking about? Salt doesn't melt anything. The reason people put salt on a snow covered drive way is because the salt lowers the melting temperature of the snow, causing it to melt from the new freezing temperature. And also the ocean don't freeze is because of the large amount of salt in it.

Read about it, it is in the first paragraph.
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99029.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom line is, don't put anything in a water/liquid-cooling system that isn't sanctioned to be put into it by its manufacturer. (Confusing pronouns? o-o)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I meant is if I put salt into the liquid enough to have it through out the liquid and froze it a bit more would it affect the kit in anyway?

I know salt changes the max temp before freezing...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend you don't, unless the manufacturer provides documentation on that.. Is heat necessarily a problem here?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you buy a liquid cooling kit there should be a little packet with the installation instruction and on the last few pages, there should be something warning you about putting stuff in the liquid cooler.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He wants to put ice cubes into the water reservoir to lower the water's temperature. Lower water temperature = more heat taken away from computer components. If the documentation lets you do this, then you do not need salt because the ice cubes will not be cold enough to freeze the water.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapion124 wrote:
He wants to put ice cubes into the water reservoir to lower the water's temperature. Lower water temperature = more heat taken away from computer components. If the documentation lets you do this, then you do not need salt because the ice cubes will not be cold enough to freeze the water.

I doubt documentation would really condone that...
Does the OP realize water cooling is only so good as ambient temperature?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guide just says clean out tubes and ETC if you see corrosion with alcohol... :S
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