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[windwaver]

Folks, what happens if the value you're trying to track runs into tens of thousands? Example, a particular game value is 100 and an initial scan turns up 30K variables.

Even after a few more 'next scans', the number of variables having the value 100 is still around 30K. There's no way I can track what 30K different variables contain and it'll freeze up the game if I set every value to the one I want.

How do you guys deal with large number of variables that you track? Or am I doing it wrongly?

Appreciate any comments.

Uli, you there? You have an email or MSN?

[sloppy]

Ideally, you would manipulate the value ingame then search. For example, if you wanted to find a hp variable, take a few hits, search for your current hp value, take a few more, search within the previous results, repeat until operation big success.

[windwaver]

[sloppy]

You are missing the point.. make the value change. Whether it be losing health, casting spells or chuggin some potions, you should be able to affect the variable with your actions ingame. Track those changes.

[windwaver]

[SXGuy]

I think your choice of words is causing confusion.

If something is a variable it means it always changes, what you need to be more specific about is whether that variable is the address, or the value.

If its the address, then chances are, there will be something that always calls it or a pointer to it, find that first, then use that in future to track down your correct address

If the value is variable then it means it will change because of some reason or another, if you know what that value is connected to, you can alter it to narrow youre search.

But since you have said that its just a particular value which can not be changed by doing anything, then my advice to you, would be to first track down the exact address you want, then find a way to quickly find it again in the future.

Even if an address is variable (i.e changes every time the process is run) it can stil be found.

For instance, if an address holding a specific value was always variable and couldnt be found, how would the program/game know where to find it?

Exactly, you need to trace that address and work out the method use to get to it, and copy that when finding the address in future.

Something as simple as finding some ASM near by that never changes, search for its array, and then jump so many bytes to your destination address.

[Wintermoot]

[windwaver]

[Dark Byte]

Ever tried the unrandomizer ?

Success rate of something can be done by calling random() and then if the result is higher then a preset value you get something else not.
Problem is that that that preset value is a static value, so can't be found with scanning.
But, if there's something else involved with the calculation. E.g luck, dex, etc... then you can find those values instead.

[windwaver]

[Dark Byte]

your only solution is to make that value change in game using normal in-game mechanics, and then scan for the new value using next scan.
But only possible if that value can actually change without doing a full map reload.
Otherwise you'll have to dissect the game line by line to find it

[SXGuy]

[windwaver]

[SXGuy]

your problem is you assume that 2 different things are stored at 1 location.

For example, you automatically assume that there will be 1 address or area that decides whether a box with 100% chance of reward will reward you, and one with 0% chance wont, 99% sure the game does not work in that way, no game does.

EDIT: Try WPE first, search for that in google, its pretty straight forward how to use it.

[Razor Hacker]

Dont you need vista for that?