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E7200 UnderClocking itself after overclocking.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: E7200 UnderClocking itself after overclocking. Reply with quote

I have an E7200 and a Intel G31 Micro ATX Motherboard. For some reason, when I overclock it to 3.2, it goes back to its stock speed at 2.53 after a period of time. This is not the first time its happened. For instance I overclock it to 3.2 and it stays 3.2 for about 1 week - 2 months. Then I notice a noticable slowdown. I check the clock speed and its back at 2.53.

I've ran Prime95 for 24 hours with no errors. SpeedStep is also disabled.

My voltage is 1.20. Should I crank up the voltage and run Prime95 again?
What should I do. Thanks.

Note: I do realize that I have a crap motherboard. I built it under an extreme budget so yeah... Please don't tell me to get a better motherboard,processor,etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first I thought it was a power-saving thing like on Asus P5Q and later mobos. That reduced the multiplier when idling. However, I don't think that'd be the issue here. It's strange that the clock would be reset (does it change back in BIOS as well?), but it wouldn't be a voltage thing. If it was due to voltage, your system would be more likely to hang when doing small FFTs in Prime95.
When is the clock reset? During computer use, or randomly when restarting?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does show up as back to factory clock on BIOS. I don't know when it resets, but when when I feel a noticable lag or anything like that after opening some of my programs, that's when I'll tell it reset. Honestly, I think it resets during start up.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the features of the Intel boards. If it resets at startup, the voltage may not be high enough and the motherboard restores default settings. Try upping the voltage a bit (if you know what you're doing).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the BIOS for anything that might be disabling your overclock. My board for example will reset to stock speeds if the overclock fails, check to make sure yours isn't falsely correcting your overclock.

Make sure Speedstep and C1E are disabled.

Check the CMOS battery with a voltmeter (it will be a CR2032 battery, looks like a quarter almost), make sure it's at least 3v.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probebly got some bug in your bios.
You should return your card.

Many asus cards got epu which automaticly underclock (by setting multiplyer low), tho as fast as you start using the computer gain it will put it at you putted it.

Otherwise some motherboards got auto thing that makes the bios reset if the computer crash.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humper wrote:
You probebly got some bug in your bios.
You should return your card.

Many asus cards got epu which automaticly underclock (by setting multiplyer low), tho as fast as you start using the computer gain it will put it at you putted it.

Otherwise some motherboards got auto thing that makes the bios reset if the computer crash.

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Its his processor
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reset your bios settings

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverForgotten wrote:
Humper wrote:
You probebly got some bug in your bios.
You should return your card.

Many asus cards got epu which automaticly underclock (by setting multiplyer low), tho as fast as you start using the computer gain it will put it at you putted it.

Otherwise some motherboards got auto thing that makes the bios reset if the computer crash.

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Its his processor
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reset your bios settings

If it's the processor, why would resetting BIOS settings be the solution? Then wouldn't the problem have been the BIOS settings in the first place? Wink
At any rate, OP: Do try to boot with defaults and start over with a lower clock, or increasing voltage a little.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karakawe wrote:
NeverForgotten wrote:
Humper wrote:
You probebly got some bug in your bios.
You should return your card.

Many asus cards got epu which automaticly underclock (by setting multiplyer low), tho as fast as you start using the computer gain it will put it at you putted it.

Otherwise some motherboards got auto thing that makes the bios reset if the computer crash.

Regards Humper


Its his processor
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reset your bios settings

If it's the processor, why would resetting BIOS settings be the solution? Then wouldn't the problem have been the BIOS settings in the first place? Wink
At any rate, OP: Do try to boot with defaults and start over with a lower clock, or increasing voltage a little.


Because it's the bios that controls processor's frequency when certain cpu features are enabled.

Some Asus boards got this glitch where it will reset the bios for no reason even if you don't overclock.
Try updating the bios and see if that helps.

As for EPU it won't work unless you install the proper drivers and software, so I doubt its that.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPU has nothing to do with drivers, its not an windows software.

Also this has probebly nothing to do with his CPU.

Check your motherboard settings abit.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure your battery is holding charge. If speedstep, and the other power saving things are off, then you should be golden.

Some boards will also reset your settings if you fail to POST.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humper wrote:
EPU has nothing to do with drivers, its not an windows software.

Also this has probebly nothing to do with his CPU.

Check your motherboard settings abit.



Depending on the type of board he's got there are 2 Asus EPU engines.

The old one is just EPU and the new one is EPU-6.

Both requires a EPU driver and a Asus provided software in order to work.
If you do not install it then EPU will not run even if the EPU chip is hardware base.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think ASUS boards are too geared towards power-use reduction. I'm more into performance.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Humper wrote:
EPU has nothing to do with drivers, its not an windows software.

Also this has probebly nothing to do with his CPU.

Check your motherboard settings abit.



Depending on the type of board he's got there are 2 Asus EPU engines.

The old one is just EPU and the new one is EPU-6.

Both requires a EPU driver and a Asus provided software in order to work.
If you do not install it then EPU will not run even if the EPU chip is hardware base.





That program just manage the EPU for your choise, it works without it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humper wrote:

That program just manage the EPU for your choise, it works without it.



Alright after a bit of deeper understanding of this technology, it seems by default EPU is turned on in the Bios, but there is no option to disable it.

To disable it, the user needs to enable overclocking mode and then EPU will get disabled, but in order to take advantage of the EPU technology user will need to install the provided software which lets them manage how EPU interact with their PCs.

And it looks like Asus ain't the one going "green"

Gigabyte and MSI has also jumped on to the "green" bandwagon.
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