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FullyAwesome
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject:

i like the __asm feature in C++, might go with C++ now after all. _________________

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:

Spawnfestis wrote:

TehBestNewbZ wrote:

You have learnt vb.net?

Assuming vb.NET was easy as a pie to learn (in your case), then I'd recommend you to learn C++ and sometimes C in certain situations.

Both C++ and C# are powerful, even though C# is an extension of C++ and is simpler to learn.

C++ has been around for a while, C++ has more resources than C#.

Microsoft has implemented a new dialect for C++ in this year, which is called C++/CLI. It's an extension of ANSI/ISO C++. Which even makes C++ more powerful, google C++/CLI for more information.

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The biggest strength of C++ is evident when you need to also use OS functionality that is only exposed as native or COM APIs since you can just call them.

The biggest strength of C# is that it is a simpler language with a build model that allows for easier tools support.

So basically, choose C++ if you want to make a lot of things (like making advanced hacks for MS, bypasses, etc) and willing to learn even if it's harder to learn. C# can do the same but is limited as compared to C++. If you want to learn a language that's simpler, choose C#.

No.

If you only want to hack - choose C++
If you want to hack and produce stuff really fast - choose C#
If you want to produce high quality stuff but a bit slower, more in-depth thinking - choose C++

There's your options. I chose C# and I've not really seen any problem with it with editing memory but all I do is basic routines. So yeah.

No? Be more specific, pl0xz0rz.

You can even hack in C#.

C++ has more resources than C#.

Produce stuff really fast? Ok... if you know C++ very well, then you can produce any C++ program quite quickly. However, this is a different story for beginners.

So you're wrong. Basically, in the short run, go for C#, in the long run, go for C++. Whatever you choose, man.

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject:

I like using C++ and C#. But with C++, I can make a undetected hal.dll deleter.

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject:

idk bout you guys, but I don't like .NET. .NET limits stuff to run perfectly on Microsoft, Windows, and makes stuff hard to port. C# sits on .NET 100% (correct me) so I C++. now, if you're on the same side, don't use (V)C++.NET... _________________ Get kidnapped often.

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject:

stupidnoob99 wrote:

I like using C++ and C#. But with C++, I can make a undetected hal.dll deleter.

Because there is nothing to detect you dolt.

C# beats C++ in development speed by far in most cases. This is a huge plus.

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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:25 am Post subject:

is visual studio good for making programs with C++? _________________

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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:10 am Post subject:

visual studio is a compiler like any other compiler you use besides it's really comfortable IDE _________________ Stylo

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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:17 am Post subject:

1qaz wrote:

visual studio is a compiler like any other compiler you use
besides it's really comfortable IDE

yeah i realise that, just making sure.
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:39 am Post subject:

TehBestNewbZ wrote:

Spawnfestis wrote:

TehBestNewbZ wrote:

I was referring to exactly what Jani said in the previous post. Mine was formed weird.
And what? "You can even hack in C#.", umm, yeah you can .. but why do you even bring it up?

"Produce stuff really fast? Ok... if you know C++ very well, then you can produce any C++ program quite quickly. However, this is a different story for beginners."
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:39 am Post subject:

Frostbyt3 wrote:

HornyAZNBoy wrote:

I choose C++ because I'm planing to go on to make games.

That's so not true. I have written easily 10+ games with graphic quality rivalling c++, in c#, with only about a 3% performance loss. It took about 30% less time aswell.

And after a tiny bit of optomising, thanks to C#'s Garbage collection, I only have a 1% performance loss.

Just look at MOGRE, Axiom, XNA, or even SlimDX.

C# is actually the choice for most game developers, but since they may want to port it to consoles, they cannot use a managed language, so Instead they use it on they're tools.

I went C# so I could make games in a reasonable amount of time without a mammoth team.

Dosen't Garbage collection secretly run in the background and take up some process? Atleast that is what I heard. C++ Dosen't have Garbage collection because it assumes you know to release the memory.
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