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manc
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Yea. I understan what you're saying HalfPrime. From what I've learned (If I'm correct) C#/VB.NET go together while C/C++ go together. The first pair is easier but less capable, while the latter is more difficult yet more powerful. Am I making too big of a deal out of this? I cant decide lol.
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samuri25404
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Personally, I started off with C#, then moved onto C++, but most say that it's easier to go the other direction. I myself haven't had much trouble with it (besides stupid linker issues, but one gets used to those after a while), though, as you've seen, "AndrewMan" has had a bit of trouble with it.
If I were you, I'd probably just go ahead and start off with C++, then go on to C#; C++ tends to teach a lot of good programming habits, while the .NET framework induces laziness (  ).
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C++ it is then, which is the best coder/compiler? (which would you recommend?)
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HomerSexual
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Microsoft Visual Studio. There is a free express c++ version and you could "come across" a VS full version torrent. >.>
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AndrewMan
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Yeah VB.Net has given me trouble a ton of times, but its really easy to figure out what you did wrong.
Here are some things you can do with VB.Net (and what i've done):
-Flash Trainers
-Trainers for other games, (maplestory, etc.)
-Bots
-I made a screenshot program you can check out: http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=255730
-Really anything you want: VB.Net has a ton of flexibility.
And if you have any questions with .Net I can help out since I know most of it now.
C++ is a much more powerful language, but than again, it will take a while to learn the even just the basics. I will give an example.
Code for a message box VB.Net:
| Code: | | MsgBox("Hey whats up") |
And in C++:
| Code: | #include <windows.h>
int WINAPI WinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE hPrevInstance,
LPSTR lpCmdLine, int nCmdShow)
{
MessageBox(NULL, "Hey whats up", MB_OK);
return 0;
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hcavolsdsadgadsg
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| AndrewMan wrote: | Yeah VB.Net has given me trouble a ton of times, but its really easy to figure out what you did wrong.
Here are some things you can do with VB.Net (and what i've done):
-Flash Trainers
-Trainers for other games, (maplestory, etc.)
-Bots
-I made a screenshot program you can check out: http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=255730
-Really anything you want: VB.Net has a ton of flexibility.
And if you have any questions with .Net I can help out since I know most of it now.
C++ is a much more powerful language, but than again, it will take a while to learn the even just the basics. I will give an example.
Code for a message box VB.Net:
| Code: | | MsgBox("Hey whats up") |
And in C++:
| Code: | #include <windows.h>
int WINAPI WinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE hPrevInstance,
LPSTR lpCmdLine, int nCmdShow)
{
MessageBox(NULL, "Hey whats up", MB_OK);
return 0;
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No, the code for a message box in C/C++ is:
| Code: | | MessageBox(0, "Text", "Title", MB_OK); |
what you pasted is an entire program. (why are you even using WinMain if you're not actually setting up a window or anything?) Hardly more complicated.
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xMurtaghx
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I would use java probably
for C++.
its standard.
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| C++/C is not really harder than C#, in terms of difficulty, both are about the same. C# is just a RAD language, making it MUCH easier to create windows applications. C/++, however, requires more EFFORT/CODE to get the same functionality that C# has, but you get more control. Essentially, C# is C/++ with less functionality but more power. It's always a tradeoff. If you can use C# to accomplish something, use it. Unless of course optimization is your thing. But for small programs, it really doesn't matter.
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samuri25404
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| WafflesFTW wrote: | | C++/C is not really harder than C#, in terms of difficulty, both are about the same. C# is just a RAD language, making it MUCH easier to create windows applications. C/++, however, requires more EFFORT/CODE to get the same functionality that C# has, but you get more control. Essentially, C# is C/++ with less functionality but more power. It's always a tradeoff. If you can use C# to accomplish something, use it. Unless of course optimization is your thing. But for small programs, it really doesn't matter. |
Other way around, buddy.
C++ can do anything that C# can do, and more; it can also use Win32 APIs easier, if they aren't included in the .NET framework. C# is simply easier to use (in my opinion) for making Windows Apps because the .NET framework doesn't expose you to all of the crap. C++ is probably a better choice though (as much as I love C#, and still prefer to use it over C++ whenever possible).
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