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Hey Guys,
I know everyone has different opinions on different languages but i would like to know which is the most proffered computer language when it comes to coding MapleStory private server trainer based stuff, i took a shot at C++ but after awhile of reading TuT's i thought to myself, theres no design programs such as vb how am i meant to make it? Also Hooking the trainer to maplestory, i do need help with that 
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: Re: [Help]Language Suggestions |
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| Mussy69 wrote: | Hey Guys,
I know everyone has different opinions on different languages but i would like to know which is the most proffered computer language when it comes to coding MapleStory private server trainer based stuff, i took a shot at C++ but after awhile of reading TuT's i thought to myself, theres no design programs such as vb how am i meant to make it? Also Hooking the trainer to maplestory, i do need help with that
Any Help Appreciated
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theres no design programs such as vb how am i meant to make it?
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The prefered language is either c# and c++ neither of which you will grasp with the attitude / knowledge that you have.
There IS design programs for c++. It's called a dialog builder, but the alternative is CreateWindowEx. There is plenty of documentation on how to build a window, swing over to forgey's tut.
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| mussy69 wrote: | | i took a shot at C++ but after awhile of reading TuT's i thought to myself, theres no design programs such as vb how am i meant to make it? |
there is even C++/CLI, .NET based that has the Rapid Application Develoment environment, also there is MFC. whaat?
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Re: [Help]Language Suggestions |
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| Mussy69 wrote: | Hey Guys,
I know everyone has different opinions on different languages but i would like to know which is the most proffered computer language when it comes to coding MapleStory private server trainer based stuff, i took a shot at C++ but after awhile of reading TuT's i thought to myself, theres no design programs such as vb how am i meant to make it? Also Hooking the trainer to maplestory, i do need help with that
Any Help Appreciated
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I'm going to have to agree with blankrider, having an attitude like that going into another language is not going to get you anywhere. First thing you need to realize is what type of language VB is. It's for rapid application development, which is why it is so easy to create GUI'd programs, because it is all done for you. Thinking you are going to get off scott-easy in any other language is a very piss poor attitude and thought to have.
If you want to get into server development, I would highly suggest C/C++ and C# as well. The majority of hacks you will find for Maple (I don't play the game, nor have I ever played it or will I ever play it so don't pm me with requests for it...) are written in ASM and C/C++ on these forums, with a select few written in Delphi and VB6.
There is no 'preferred' language for anything. It's based on what you want to and are willing to learn and put time into. Each language is developed for a reason. Most have a specific reason for existing, such as VB for RAD programs for database environments.
Do some research on each language and find one that suites your needs and such.
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Thanks Benlue, il look up some ASM tuts and do it in my free time and do what blankrider said and get WindowsCreateEx and work with C++ after ASM one question which is the best compiler?
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| Mussy69 wrote: | | Thanks Benlue, il look up some ASM tuts and do it in my free time and do what blankrider said and get WindowsCreateEx and work with C++ after ASM one question which is the best compiler? |
Look, it depends on the compiler you're using, some shitty compilers don't have a drag/drop UI like you're talking about (MSVC++), just use Borland's products, they're the best, so just use Borland C++ Builder.
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I suggest at least learning Win32 (CreateWindowEx, etc) because it's good to know, and I prefer it anyday over MFC and such.
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| Rot1 wrote: | | Mussy69 wrote: | | Thanks Benlue, il look up some ASM tuts and do it in my free time and do what blankrider said and get WindowsCreateEx and work with C++ after ASM one question which is the best compiler? |
Look, it depends on the compiler you're using, some shitty compilers don't have a drag/drop UI like you're talking about (MSVC++), just use Borland's products, they're the best, so just use Borland C++ Builder. |
I actually would prefer to build my own GUI from pure API's rather then use a Borland product (just me)
MSVC++ isn't shitty at all, and there IS a Drag and Drop GUI within C++ Projects. There called Resources. It's a good alternative if you don't feel like coding the GUI yourself but still have control over everything else such as messages and etc.
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| Rot1 wrote: | | Mussy69 wrote: | | Thanks Benlue, il look up some ASM tuts and do it in my free time and do what blankrider said and get WindowsCreateEx and work with C++ after ASM one question which is the best compiler? |
Look, it depends on the compiler you're using, some shitty compilers don't have a drag/drop UI like you're talking about (MSVC++), just use Borland's products, they're the best, so just use Borland C++ Builder. |
I like having borland dependencies too, it always makes me happy....
At least VC++ dependencies are majorly supported / included (except for 
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| lurc wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | | Mussy69 wrote: | | Thanks Benlue, il look up some ASM tuts and do it in my free time and do what blankrider said and get WindowsCreateEx and work with C++ after ASM one question which is the best compiler? |
Look, it depends on the compiler you're using, some shitty compilers don't have a drag/drop UI like you're talking about (MSVC++), just use Borland's products, they're the best, so just use Borland C++ Builder. |
I actually would prefer to build my own GUI from pure API's rather then use a Borland product (just me)
MSVC++ isn't shitty at all, and there IS a Drag and Drop GUI within C++ Projects. There called Resources. It's a good alternative if you don't feel like coding the GUI yourself but still have control over everything else such as messages and etc. |
VC++ is .NET and if you can't use APIs normal, as you said it has to be MessageBox::Show() and i don't have time for this.
i like Borland because you make application fast and it compiles fast and all, Borland is the SHIT! ;]
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| Rot1 wrote: | | lurc wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | | Mussy69 wrote: | | Thanks Benlue, il look up some ASM tuts and do it in my free time and do what blankrider said and get WindowsCreateEx and work with C++ after ASM one question which is the best compiler? |
Look, it depends on the compiler you're using, some shitty compilers don't have a drag/drop UI like you're talking about (MSVC++), just use Borland's products, they're the best, so just use Borland C++ Builder. |
I actually would prefer to build my own GUI from pure API's rather then use a Borland product (just me)
MSVC++ isn't shitty at all, and there IS a Drag and Drop GUI within C++ Projects. There called Resources. It's a good alternative if you don't feel like coding the GUI yourself but still have control over everything else such as messages and etc. |
VC++ is .NET and if you can't use APIs normal, as you said it has to be MessageBox::Show() and i don't have time for this.
i like Borland because you make application fast and it compiles fast and all, Borland is the SHIT! ;] |
You really need to read what you type sometimes.
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Hey when I downloaded Borland C++ Compiler and extracted it and ran the help file it says run BCC32.exe when i do that a CMD opens up then immediately closes, any help please?
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| Rot1 wrote: | VC++ is .NET and if you can't use APIs normal, as you said it has to be MessageBox::Show() and i don't have time for this.
i like Borland because you make application fast and it compiles fast and all, Borland is the SHIT! ;] |
Umm, no...
Its just the compiler, it supports both C++ and C++.NET. (Win32 Application - C++, CLR Console/Windows Forms - .NET)
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| Rot1 wrote: | | VC++ is .NET ... |
I lol'd in real life when I read that.. seriously, don't say something if you haven't the slightest clue of what you are saying.
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