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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Screenshot format Reply with quote

When taking a screenshot using the 'Print screen' button, it saves the screenshot as a .tmp file.. what format is this.. I mean I know tmp stands for temp -> temporary.

I noticed this when I took a screenshot and then ctrl + v'd it to my MSN Messenger window.
It sends a file (for example: f4hnjdb5.tmp
but messenger understands it is an image file)

So.. Anyone have any idea what format this is?

It's like making a batch file.
the extension is .bat, but in reality it's .txt.bat (not in all cases)

Oh, BTW it's better to ctrl + v it to messenger window, than to save it as a bmp or a jpg,
because the file is only about 200kb! (even on a resolution of 1400x900)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed this on MSN as well. It's ONLY on MSN, and your print screen should not produce .tmp files outside of MSN. As for me, when I press print screen, a little thing pops up and asks me what to save it as, and when I save it, it's automatically uploaded into an images directory without me even seeing it Smile. It's sexy...lol
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats because when you do Print Screen/SysRq, it saves the picture to your clipboard... Which is temp....

You have to take a picture

PASTE IT INTO PAINT

Save, send, ect...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a .tmp.jpg


It's just in a temp folder Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay.


It has the quality of a png, but is slightly larger..

I tried saving the same screenshot in different formats
(with res 1440x900)

Here's the results:

.png - 132kb and no visual loss of quality
.jpg - 139kb and significant loss of quality
.bmp - 3,5mb and FULL QUALITY
.tif - 340kb and a slight loss of quality
.gif - 132kb and a HUUUUUGE loss of quality

I also tried sending the .tmp file to my friend.. messenger shows the size is 140kb. So .jpg is closest to that.

But it does not meet the same quality!

I think messenger has it's own jpg compressor built-in.
As mspaint has a very lousy one.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use paint, rofl!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tofuli wrote:
Okay.


It has the quality of a png, but is slightly larger..

I tried saving the same screenshot in different formats
(with res 1440x900)

Here's the results:

.png - 132kb and no visual loss of quality
.jpg - 139kb and significant loss of quality
.bmp - 3,5mb and FULL QUALITY
.tif - 340kb and a slight loss of quality
.gif - 132kb and a HUUUUUGE loss of quality

I also tried sending the .tmp file to my friend.. messenger shows the size is 140kb. So .jpg is closest to that.

But it does not meet the same quality!

I think messenger has it's own jpg compressor built-in.
As mspaint has a very lousy one.


JPEG (jpg) has an non-linear transformation, the dynamic range of an 8-bit JPEG file is about 11 stops.

That causes huge quality loss with EVERY save.

Png however, has a non-patented lossless data compression method known as DEFLATE, which is the same algorithm used in the zlib compression library.

My point is, you should use only formats with only linear compression.

Source: Wikipedia, G0SS GRAPHIC SYSTEM DOCUMENTATION

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that, but this has gone WAAAAYYY off topic.

The question was, what format it is.
Not which compression method is the best.

And I think we concluded this already.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Print Screen format is BMP (bitmap).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jpeg is the most flexible format, but if you use paint it sort of spoils the whole idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Psych] wrote:
Jpeg is the most flexible format, but if you use paint it sort of spoils the whole idea.

Jpg is shit.
.png .tiff .png .dng ftw
Im and photographer and i use only RAW formats(in my case .png .dng). Of course if i take pictures of some shitty house party i may use jpg.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hixk is my hero wrote:
Print Screen format is BMP (bitmap).


dude.. u think BMP can be 140kb?
It's actually 3,5mb..
HAHAHA.. with a resolution of 1440x900..
you are way off.

Tho, it can be it saves it as a .bmp.tmp
and that messenger really compresses it into a jpeg..

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tofuli wrote:
Hixk is my hero wrote:
Print Screen format is BMP (bitmap).


dude.. u think BMP can be 140kb?
It's actually 3,5mb..
HAHAHA.. with a resolution of 1440x900..
you are way off.

Tho, it can be it saves it as a .bmp.tmp
and that messenger really compresses it into a jpeg..


Wait, what? No, he never said that. He only told you what the print screen format is. Please, read who's posting before you go off flaming them.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just save ur Screenshots in paint as .png
png is my favourite format.
TRANSPARANCY FTW!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trucido wrote:
Just save ur Screenshots in paint as .png
png is my favourite format.
TRANSPARANCY FTW!


Dude, did you read the first post?

I didn't ask which format to use..

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