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Waffles123
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Tutorial Step 8 Reply with quote

My sincerest apoligies for asking a noob question; however, I am stuck on this step and eager to figure it out. If anyone could offer me any help, I would greatly appreciate it. My issues are with figuring out the multilevel pointers, steps 1 - 7 were no problem. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a tutorial on doing step 8 the long way.
I suggest reading it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the reply. I might just be retarded, but I did not find the step 8 tutorial anywhere. Could you kindly point me in the right direction? (Maybe I didn't use search right or something.)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is only 12 threads down Confused .
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, I definetly failed with search then. Thank you, sir!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol step 8 is very long
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err.... xcuse me...

Everyone... my apologies for asking a n00b question too... (I think mine is worse than waffle's). Shocked

actually I really dont understand what is pointer... what is offset... what they do... I passed step 1 - 7 all by myself, but i dont really understand what is pointer anyway. I've tried to read and repeat step 6 all over and over again... I can pass step 6 easily by find pointer that change the value, but I dont really understand what pointer means. Right now... step 8 make knocks me out with multilevel pointers and offsets...

I know this is a very basic question, but honestly, I dont understand them at all. If someone can help me, please tell me about understanding pointers... what they do... how they works...

It is much better if u can post a screenshot, pics or anything that can show how these pointers works normally before CE does anything to it.
Or at least please direct me to a source that I can read about pointers, offsets, etc to understand their definiton and how they works.

Ah yes.. of course please teach me about manipulate these pointers too. In step 6 we learned how to find a pointer, but tutorial doesn't teach us to manipulate it... I wish I can manipulate a pointer so I can write down the desired values I want.

Thank you very much in advance Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

need a tut?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

X483 wrote:
need a tut?


Didnt he ask for "something to read about pointers?" Whats the point of your pointless post? Post count?

Dr_Beat...I would bet you are overcomplicating pointers and getting confused as a lot of people do. A pointer is nothing more than a memory address that points to another memory address. Say you have your address for health in a game. A pointer is simply an address in memory that points to that address. Multi level pointers are simply pointers that point to pointers. Take what I said before and expand it. Address A holds your health, Address B is a pointer pointing to address A, and Address C is a pointer pointing to Address B. So C points to B, and B points to A. Multi level. I would recommend you read some tuts...http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewforum.php?f=14 over at the pointer tutorial section.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geeez, thanks a lot Kjmarket! Very Happy

I'm goin to read the section u mentioned about.

Last question from your explanation above:

If u want to manipulate what is written in A, it means u must find pointer C first, then manipulate C. Is that right ?
And step 8 teach us about how to trace it and manipulate it. Is that right ?

Well, once again, thanks a lot, u help me much. Idea
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For example of a multilevelled pointer:

Code:

[ { (456712 + 4C) + 2B} + 4]


456712 + 4C points to an address..
Then this address plus the offset + 2B points to another address...
Then this other address + 4 points to your final address.

Its this address that the value will get written into.

In another way:

Code:

456712 + 4C   - level 1
<result> + 2B - level 2
<result> + 4   - level 3

Value gets manipulated at the address pointed at by <result> + 4.


Read through tuts until you fully understand what a pointer is and how it works. Offsets will become very clear to you to whilst reading.

It really is not difficult at all, and you'll say that later on Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I passed step 8 but I've never had to use a multi level pointer yet... can you link me an example of why they can be usefull?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chase Payne wrote:
I passed step 8 but I've never had to use a multi level pointer yet... can you link me an example of why they can be usefull?


What games are you hacking to not have used a multilevel pointer yet?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now Im just hacking basic stuff... making free trials infinite on programs etc... I havn't gotten to single player games yet
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats naughty..ie... illegal Razz
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