Innovation
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 Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| xen0r wrote: | What it sounds like, from your writing is that you have never been around a black hat scene. I don't mean forums like hackforums. I mean the real sites, where the big viruses come from. The Russian/Carding websites. I can prove with translated screen shots that there may be 1 of 10 viruses coded in .NET. The sales threads of viruses BRAG when they are coded in C/C++. It is a huge plus, and is something an experienced cyber criminal will look for when purchasing a bin. As blablfy said, you don't need to have coded a virus to know what's best. Sure, a .NET virus will be a lot easier to code but when it comes down to reliability in your virus it will be C/C++/ASM. Furthermore, making your virus FUD (fully undetectable) in .NET is harder, the reason for that is usually because programmers re-use code which is easily identified by most AV's. More advanced C/C++/ASM coders use unique methods that can sometimes be undetected without the use of a crypter (don't get me wrong, some re-use code). To end, it does matter very much so if your code can be decrypted so a third party may be able to locate your bot's panel or a server IP. This is what gets people caught and sent to jail. A large syndicate/ring wants to have the best possible odds in staying below the radar.
Edit: I don't disagree that any language cannot make a virus but it is uncommon for large scale operations. |
You are arguing that most "real" malware are written in programming languages that do not compile to an intermediate representation.
He is arguing that a virus can be written in any language that allows use of appropriate APIs.
You're creating a straw man here.
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