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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: visual basic O_O... Reply with quote

well started learning vb yesterday, and i must say i like it..ANYWAYS here's my first VB crackme..enjoy Razz
all 3 passwords must be correct for it to work Wink
and you will just know if you've won, it's obvious...
AND PLEASE don't bother me with being a n00b or any crap because i just started vb yesterday...
Link for those of you who cannot see attachment.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=88393
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't use Visual Basic, Shane.


VB is fine but .net sucks.(for crackmes and such)


VB is not fine. It is horrible.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't use Visual Basic, Shane.
tell me why.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VB sucks. Every incarnation of the "language" (I use that term very lightly) sucks. Period.

Why? It (BASIC) was never intended to be a serious language an as a result remains, a pathetic language

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

high6 wrote:
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Don't use Visual Basic, Shane.


VB is fine but .net sucks.(for crackmes and such)


VB is not fine. It is horrible.


ok bring this topic up on www.vbforums.com (no it isn't all vb it has every pc language). and get flamed to hell about this. Programming language is about choice. I personally like C# and C++ but I used to use vb. and I have to say vb was a nice language.


Say VB sucks on an amateur VB forum, you will be flamed. (Mostly because they don't know how to program in anything else, and flaming the offender makes them feel like they haven't wasted their life learning VB.)

Say VB is an excellent language on any forum with even the slightest bit of real programming knowledge, and you will be flamed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually went to the forum to go say VB is a horrible language. It amuses me that when I looked around, I saw people flaming a guy for saying VB is a good language.

Yay, Desolator144. Saved me some trouble.

http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=455179
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, VBForums have a lot of people that don't know any VB at all. Strange, right? Well, it's all part of their plan.

VBForums's goal is to appear on the outside a warm welcoming community of VB programmers to help you with one of the "easiest" languages possible. What they're really doing is keeping newbies ignorant of other, superior useful languages so they can secure their jobs doing useful productive things while the next generation of programmers will be stuck doing messageboxes and calculators.

CEForums on the other hand will help you choose what's right for you, many of our members DIED to keep the evil corporate VB agena off these forums, you should really take our advice to heart.

DON'T LEARN VB.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To quote Edsger Dijkstra:
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It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha that is awesome. Im tempted to sig that :S
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter what language you use, I can bet your memory management sucks (non-.NET considering .NET takes that out of your hands), and then again, looking at your English and your grammar.... enough said.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You misunderstood:

.NET takes memory management out of your hands, ie, you the programmer doesnt have to be AS worried about it.

Seeing that you started on VB (whether that be .NET or otherwise), my guess is that your memory management (amongst other things) sucks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point exactly Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_management

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_%28computer_science%29

http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/tkagarwal/MemoryManagementInNet11232005064832AM/MemoryManagementInNet.aspx

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

high6 wrote:
I knew you were gonna say that but I rather learn so what is it?


Very simple concept. When you need memory, you allocate it. When you're done with it, you free it. Some beginners soil their pants just thinking about having to deal with freeing their memory so they have .NET, or garbage collection do it. The question is, when does the garbage collector know you're done with the memory? Does it know better than you do? Did IT design the program?
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