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What are pointers?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah don't give up tho,
it is not something your going to learn overnight, pointers are a bit difficult to learn as the programmers try to lead you a merry dance tracking them down,

the best bet is to have a go at learning something for about 15 to 20 minutes at a time then have a break from it for a little while, to stop your brain overheating Twisted Evil

if your having trouble with english then it's understandable that your finding it difficult, maybe someone can tell you in your native language how to do this,
learning something from a foreign language is impressive in its own right Cool

anyway your doing ok, your trying to learn how to do it yourself instead of just asking for cheats to be made for you, and your getting into the harder stuff, so just have patience, don't try to learn everything overnight, try out some easy programs like minesweeper and non protected games to practice on and get your knowledge and confidence up,
and if sometimes you can't find a cheat it isn't the end of the world Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me, i know u are an expert in CE.
could u give me your opinion of http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=9999

thousands of guys just view post and very very few of them post.

thx so much,
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


well I'm no expert, just plodded along and went through the tut's from here and other sites,

anyway the first thing to do is save the code that writes to or accesses your address, then the code that writes to or accesses your pointer(s),

then whenever you start a game you dont have to go through the search routine all over again, you know how to use the ADD TO CODE LIST button, so that is the first thing to do,

the reason this is important is that some games change the pointer more often than others,
for instance bf 1942 changes your health bar pointer each time you get fragged during the same game map, also your ammo pointers change when that happens,
so save your code,

there is no one concrete exact way to resolve all pointer searches but a good general overview is the best you can get,

but to get back to your question, and something that I and otheres have covered here in previous pages , is the pointer changed in any way prior to getting loaded into the address you found,
for example....

mov eax,[ecx+10]
mov eax,[eax+20]
dec eax

that is an imaginary example but you can see eax is changed twice before it is deceased so you have to look at what address ecx is holding rather than what eax is holding when its decreased, { this is why a hex search sometimes doesn't find any results, because the pointer is modified one or more times before it is decreased/increased/farted in the general direction of }

be warned though if the programmer has decided to make it difficult to track down a pointer then it will take a little time to find it..

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi everyone i am a newbies.. i not sure about pointer..
i ask u guy something.... the game is like a library, the data is the book, the pointer and offset are the shelf....so if u want to find a data u must know which shelf to go ..... am i right?? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pointer and offset is the index or result of a search using the computer. It tells you what shelf the book is on and even what book it is counting from the left

e.g shelf 4 book 6

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks dark byte...i see some hack website..they give the pointer only
Why they dun put the address...it is easiler alot
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im doing 8th step of CE tutorial and first pointer code is mov [eax+18],esi
(would post screen but cant post url still lmao)

i think offset is 18 but im wrong,i guess,because when i add "address manualy" the one extra info show and add pointer i dont get value,just ???,so i can't search for another pointer, if anyone can tell me what im doing wrong and what i should do i would be grateful Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do i type in for this......

Mov eax,[esi+edi*4]

it messes up when i type in esi as the address for the pointer and edi*4 for the offset....it doesnt like edi*4 as the offset...

but i dont just type edi...i type whatever edi is like lets say

esi = 0727d928
eax = 05b060c0
edi = 0000013A

then i type 13a*4 and it doesnt work...HELP ME!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dark byte help me how do i finsh the tutoral step 7
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
i do some pointer scanning on a pointer for warcraft 3 TFT
it gives me thousands of results
how can i know which 1's the right 1??
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really easy,
Don't think too hard.
Point(er)
It point's to something,
The address itself not the pointer, get's the data from the pointer,
if u wonder why ppl dun just post the normal address,
it's bec pointer never changes.
Unless theres a pointer pointing a pointer ofcourse.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, thats what i meant
pointer to a pointer

even the results i get for this pointer, none of em is static address
its still far from getting what i want

i passed step 8 without no help from any1
but wc3 is kinda hard
it gives too many address for 2nd lvl pointer

erm, i tried using disassembler
but there r just too many calls
dark byte, can we execute calls n jump in cheat engine??
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neverquit wrote:
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Keep spamming and see what happens, So far you have 5 posts all spam.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make a fucking trainer out of this, oh and i need a trainer for 1.3 versiopm just so u know
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