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me Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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yeah don't give up tho,
it is not something your going to learn overnight, pointers are a bit difficult to learn as the programmers try to lead you a merry dance tracking them down,
the best bet is to have a go at learning something for about 15 to 20 minutes at a time then have a break from it for a little while, to stop your brain overheating
if your having trouble with english then it's understandable that your finding it difficult, maybe someone can tell you in your native language how to do this,
learning something from a foreign language is impressive in its own right
anyway your doing ok, your trying to learn how to do it yourself instead of just asking for cheats to be made for you, and your getting into the harder stuff, so just have patience, don't try to learn everything overnight, try out some easy programs like minesweeper and non protected games to practice on and get your knowledge and confidence up,
and if sometimes you can't find a cheat it isn't the end of the world
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ppxdf Newbie cheater
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
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me, i know u are an expert in CE.
could u give me your opinion of http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=9999
thousands of guys just view post and very very few of them post.
thx so much,
ppxdf
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me Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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well I'm no expert, just plodded along and went through the tut's from here and other sites,
anyway the first thing to do is save the code that writes to or accesses your address, then the code that writes to or accesses your pointer(s),
then whenever you start a game you dont have to go through the search routine all over again, you know how to use the ADD TO CODE LIST button, so that is the first thing to do,
the reason this is important is that some games change the pointer more often than others,
for instance bf 1942 changes your health bar pointer each time you get fragged during the same game map, also your ammo pointers change when that happens,
so save your code,
there is no one concrete exact way to resolve all pointer searches but a good general overview is the best you can get,
but to get back to your question, and something that I and otheres have covered here in previous pages , is the pointer changed in any way prior to getting loaded into the address you found,
for example....
mov eax,[ecx+10]
mov eax,[eax+20]
dec eax
that is an imaginary example but you can see eax is changed twice before it is deceased so you have to look at what address ecx is holding rather than what eax is holding when its decreased, { this is why a hex search sometimes doesn't find any results, because the pointer is modified one or more times before it is decreased/increased/farted in the general direction of }
be warned though if the programmer has decided to make it difficult to track down a pointer then it will take a little time to find it..
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weako Expert Cheater
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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hi everyone i am a newbies.. i not sure about pointer..
i ask u guy something.... the game is like a library, the data is the book, the pointer and offset are the shelf....so if u want to find a data u must know which shelf to go ..... am i right??
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Dark Byte Site Admin
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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pointer and offset is the index or result of a search using the computer. It tells you what shelf the book is on and even what book it is counting from the left
e.g shelf 4 book 6
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weako Expert Cheater
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Thanks dark byte...i see some hack website..they give the pointer only
Why they dun put the address...it is easiler alot
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AB1110 How do I cheat?
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Im doing 8th step of CE tutorial and first pointer code is mov [eax+18],esi
(would post screen but cant post url still lmao)
i think offset is 18 but im wrong,i guess,because when i add "address manualy" the one extra info show and add pointer i dont get value,just ???,so i can't search for another pointer, if anyone can tell me what im doing wrong and what i should do i would be grateful
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N0th!ng How do I cheat?
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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what do i type in for this......
Mov eax,[esi+edi*4]
it messes up when i type in esi as the address for the pointer and edi*4 for the offset....it doesnt like edi*4 as the offset...
but i dont just type edi...i type whatever edi is like lets say
esi = 0727d928
eax = 05b060c0
edi = 0000013A
then i type 13a*4 and it doesnt work...HELP ME!!!
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firethenoob Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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dark byte help me how do i finsh the tutoral step 7
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ran_fan06 Newbie cheater
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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hi
i do some pointer scanning on a pointer for warcraft 3 TFT
it gives me thousands of results
how can i know which 1's the right 1??
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dEagle Expert Cheater
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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It's really easy,
Don't think too hard.
Point(er)
It point's to something,
The address itself not the pointer, get's the data from the pointer,
if u wonder why ppl dun just post the normal address,
it's bec pointer never changes.
Unless theres a pointer pointing a pointer ofcourse.
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ran_fan06 Newbie cheater
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, thats what i meant
pointer to a pointer
even the results i get for this pointer, none of em is static address
its still far from getting what i want
i passed step 8 without no help from any1
but wc3 is kinda hard
it gives too many address for 2nd lvl pointer
erm, i tried using disassembler
but there r just too many calls
dark byte, can we execute calls n jump in cheat engine??
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neverquit Newbie cheater
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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confousing
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Labyrnth Moderator
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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neverquit wrote: | confousing |
Keep spamming and see what happens, So far you have 5 posts all spam.
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~-=Amil`Ghoul=-~ How do I cheat?
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Just make a fucking trainer out of this, oh and i need a trainer for 1.3 versiopm just so u know
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