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galaxygraber How do I cheat? Reputation: 0
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Hey Dark Byte, are you absolutely sure about that rootkit thing? How is cheat engine able to see it? Is there another way to absolutely confirm that something like this is present on my PC? And would external harddrives be affected?
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:40 am Post subject: |
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You either have an incompetent anti virus that is blocking CE and gets tricked by renaming. (any AV that gets tricked by renaming files should be uninstalled ASAP and replaced)
Or your system has actually been compromised by a thus far unknown rootkit that is most likely logging your keystrokes and password, and using your system to attack other systems.
CE can be used to scan kernel memory and let a person look at the memory realtime and see hooks and abnormalities that an automated tool might ignore.
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galaxygraber How do I cheat? Reputation: 0
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Seeing as how I don't have an anti-virus software (other than windows defender, which I tried disabling), I think it's safe to assume that this is indeed a rootkit.
There are a few other reasons I believe it may be a rootkit, but I won't divulge them here.
I have already starting backing up important files on an external harddrive. Is there anything I should be concerned about in that regard? Can the rootkit attach itself in some way to the external harddrive (or any of the files on that harddrive)?
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:22 am Post subject: |
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it could be a BIOS/UEFI rootkit that loads before the OS is loaded, but those are rare
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MrExe300 How do I cheat? Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if this thread is closed, but I was wondering if I might also have gotten a rootkit on my computer. I got the same message when trying to start CE. But it did work by renaming the .exe file.
I do have Avast installed and I tried to uninstall it and then try CE again, but it was same as before
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:21 am Post subject: |
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likely yes.
something checks tor a file named cheatengine and blocks execution. If it's not your AV then it has to be something worse
i recommend reinstalling windows and see how that goes
edit: what you can also try is renaming cheatengine-x86_64.exe to goat-x86_64.exe and run that. If that also fails to run then it's just something stupid. But it it works, reinstall/format
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eduardonba How do I cheat? Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Dark Byte wrote: | likely yes.
something checks tor a file named cheatengine and blocks execution. If it's not your AV then it has to be something worse
i recommend reinstalling windows and see how that goes
edit: what you can also try is renaming cheatengine-x86_64.exe to goat-x86_64.exe and run that. If that also fails to run then it's just something stupid. But it it works, reinstall/format |
I renamed and it worked
I had this problem since i installed Xenoverse II EASYANTICHEAT
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OldCheatEngineUser Whateven rank Reputation: 20
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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now what!
more programs working against CE, and more devs, more people and much more like CE DLL injector its blocked from some games, CE debugger and debugger options ( some games try to block every debugging way CE use )
I would like to see a solution for this shitty thingy that's happening, ehmmm:
dark byte, do you think making CE source not available for public would help? with some changes ..
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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No, because it's open source you can easily just rename it and it works.
but what you can do is file a class action lawsuit, or start a really bad PR campaign against them, for damaging your system without giving consent (assuming they don't state they make permanent modifications to your system blocking execution of certain files from competitors)
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atom0s Moderator Reputation: 198
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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It won't matter if its open or closed source. The purpose and nature of the program is the reason it's targeted and blocked.
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OldCheatEngineUser Whateven rank Reputation: 20
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Dark Byte wrote: | what you can do is file a class action lawsuit, or start a really bad PR campaign against them, for damaging your system without giving consent (assuming they don't state they make permanent modifications to your system blocking execution of certain files from competitors) |
- poor man like me can't open his mouth in a place where they kill anyone till the truth or complain about bad things
- probably they won't write/say a word of modding the system.
thanks db, but I really thought that it might prevent some game devs or game anti hacks devs from blocking CE and it functions.
#atom
yes, I understand this thing.
but the question is where is the end? and what would the end be?
all debuggers and memory scanner or disassembler too will be blocked from being used under windows os?
- is there any hardware debugger? like plug and debug? from a specific motherboard port?
this would be a great project and business as well! (its kinda USB drive)
so you deal with hardware directly and communicate with system just to display results.
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MoonMoon How do I cheat? Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:16 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Dark Byte"]rename cheatengine-x86_64.exe to goat.exe and run that
if that works, then reformat your harddisk and possible also a new BIOS, as your system has been compromised by an advanced rootkit that tries to hide itself by blocking CE[/quote]
Can you explain why making the name goat.exe means my pc has a rootkit ı am not that big of a pc expert but ı dont know how can that mean that
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:27 am Post subject: |
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It means something is watching the execution of files named "cheatengine-x86_64.exe" and blocks execution of it
Anyhow, there is a tool out now that can repair your windows install : http://cheatengine.org/download/windowsrepair.exe
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