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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: why do republicans and ignorant people care Reply with quote

So much about Transgender people. It's their business how they choose to identify, let them be who they choose to be, it doesn't affect you.

It's a known fact that Transgender people have existed since the dawn of civilization. Why fight nature? All it does is halt progress about knowing ourselves and humanity more.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is everyone who disagrees with me so stupid and ignorant? Everyone behold my moral superiority.

Also, because it's a mental illness.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is everyone who disagrees with me so stupid and ignorant? Everyone behold my moral superiority.

Also, because it's a mental illness.

I find it very hard to believe that it is a mental disease/illness, and that is very rude of you to say. I've known transgender people my whole life. My best friend from Arizona who was this gun totting republican just came out to me that he was transgender and he was forced to closet it because his family is blackmailing him.

transgender people deal with a lot of hate towards them, and they are deserving of respect. they force themselves to conform to society and it's wrong. Many people you know now, or possibly in your family are transgender but they are just afraid to let it be known because of what people like you might say or do, calling it a mental illness.

it's a known scientific fact that transgender people have differently wired brains than your average male. take a look at a transgender person's MRI, compared to a neurotypical person.

to address your first point, Why is everyone who disagrees with me so stupid and ignorant? Everyone behold my moral superiority.

I don't believe I have any actual moral superiority. I go by the facts. I seek the truth in situations. I just have big emotions, and a bold head.

I believe we are all one in the cosmic scale, and that karma will have it's favor. We are all just the universe experiecing itself subjectively, as much as it is objective, and that libertarianism/libertarian socialism is the only way forward for freedom. Choosing control over freedom is never the solution.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

> faulty wiring
> not a mental illness

pick one.

your biology says XY, you say XX based on how you feel = your brain is sick
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
> faulty wiring
> not a mental illness

pick one.

It's not faulty. Who's to say what way the brain is truly supposed to be wired? people with a lot of money and a lust for power? don't allow yourself to be controlled by what the system wants you to think, either it's the left or right paradigm, neither truly solve any of these issues at hand. what transgender people need is the right to be working class citizens just like the rest of us neurotypical people, without judgement. They provide in the workforce just like "normal" people, so why should their influence in the world be pushed aside and mistreated, or ignored?

Yes I will give you that there are some transgender people with serious mental illness and depression problems, but that doesn't mean the WHOLE FUCKING COMMUNITY is that way. That's generalizing, and a logical fallacy.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
> faulty wiring
> not a mental illness

pick one.

It's not faulty. Who's to say what way the brain is truly supposed to be wired? people with a lot of money and a lust for power? don't allow yourself to be controlled by what the system wants you to think, either it's the left or right paradigm, neither truly solve any of these issues at hand. what transgender people need is the right to be working class citizens just like the rest of us neurotypical people, without judgement. They provide in the workforce just like "normal" people, so why should their influence in the world be pushed aside and mistreated, or ignored?
They are hired just like normal people, I've worked with transgendered people, they aren't oppressed. Stop being a tumblr faggot. Yeah, people look at them strange because they are strange. They are a very, very small percentage of the population, why do you care so much other than virtue signaling?
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because its pseudoscience
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
Channel GannoK wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
> faulty wiring
> not a mental illness

pick one.

It's not faulty. Who's to say what way the brain is truly supposed to be wired? people with a lot of money and a lust for power? don't allow yourself to be controlled by what the system wants you to think, either it's the left or right paradigm, neither truly solve any of these issues at hand. what transgender people need is the right to be working class citizens just like the rest of us neurotypical people, without judgement. They provide in the workforce just like "normal" people, so why should their influence in the world be pushed aside and mistreated, or ignored?
They are hired just like normal people, I've worked with transgendered people, they aren't oppressed. Stop being a tumblr faggot. Yeah, people look at them strange because they are strange. They are a very, very small percentage of the population, why do you care so much other than virtue signaling?

yes they are hired, yes they work. So you think that makes it okay for people to treat them as if they are subhuman? When all they have done is try to get along with the world that has oppressed them LARGELY up until this point?

Things are starting to get better for them, but when you have people telling them constantly that they are experiencing a mental illness, and that how they choose to LIVE THEIR LIFE, completely away from yours, is WRONG, how do you think that affects anyone? It causes them to react negatively because you aren't willing to see things through their eyes.

There are elements of truth to everything, but the biggest truth is that transgender people are very real, and they just want to exist in this world just like you and me, without worry of future persecution. Given how Mike Pence feels about the gays, it seems very likely he wouldn't be too far off giving the same treatment for the trans community.

The only very real mental disease, is hatred. it seeps in your brain and it controls you, and if you let it sit long enough, it consumes you. I hate no one, I love everyone and I just want people to understand eachother and stop fighting.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
Channel GannoK wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
> faulty wiring
> not a mental illness

pick one.

It's not faulty. Who's to say what way the brain is truly supposed to be wired? people with a lot of money and a lust for power? don't allow yourself to be controlled by what the system wants you to think, either it's the left or right paradigm, neither truly solve any of these issues at hand. what transgender people need is the right to be working class citizens just like the rest of us neurotypical people, without judgement. They provide in the workforce just like "normal" people, so why should their influence in the world be pushed aside and mistreated, or ignored?
They are hired just like normal people, I've worked with transgendered people, they aren't oppressed. Stop being a tumblr faggot. Yeah, people look at them strange because they are strange. They are a very, very small percentage of the population, why do you care so much other than virtue signaling?

yes they are hired, yes they work. So you think that makes it okay for people to treat them as if they are subhuman? When all they have done is try to get along with the world that has oppressed them LARGELY up until this point?

Things are starting to get better for them, but when you have people telling them constantly that they are experiencing a mental illness, and that how they choose to LIVE THEIR LIFE, completely away from yours, is WRONG, how do you think that affects anyone? It causes them to react negatively because you aren't willing to see things through their eyes.

There are elements of truth to everything, but the biggest truth is that transgender people are very real, and they just want to exist in this world just like you and me.
I don't tell them that, I just say that about them behind their backs. How is it wrong for me to think this way? Because it doesn't fall into your world view, I ought to not say I think that to anyone because otherwise I am just a <McCarthyism>. You are the real thought police.

Listen to your holier than thou attitude " but the biggest truth is that transgender people are very real, and they just want to exist in this world just like you and me " give me a fucking break. I treat them like I treat every other idiot with giant holes in their ears or a neon fauxhawk = I don't say anything about them but I silently judge them.

You just wanna

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Omg Kyle you are such a noble, progressive, forward thinking, open-minded, caring, and brave person to go and be the fighter than transgender people so desperately need, because despite you being against generalizing them, you've pretended like they're all delicate little snowflakes who can't take the harsh world judging them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, what I am saying is my opinion and my world view, you have yours and and respect that. And I run into the types you speak of everyday. I get it. There is genuine evil and good in everyone.whats important now is we see past the game the elite have been doing, pitting us against eachother. I'm not trying to tell you how how to think. I'm telling you the facts, and and my life experience, living amongst all walks of life.
I literally just the other day, had a bloodline nazi admit everything about himself and his family(incest and all), and that i respect his way of life, as long as he respects mine.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not saying the mentally ill aren't people, just that transgender people are ill.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
I'm not saying the mentally ill aren't people, just that transgender people are ill.


Then allow them to sort out their problems. And integrate into society in a healthy loving manner. Don't attack them(verbally), behind their backs or not. The best thing you can do to help others, is to help yourself. Try to make make at least 3 people smile everyday. I do it everyday and try my best to be the person who can make people smile. Usually it's with jokes, music, and illusion magic.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gender doesn't exist, its just an invented social construct term created by nonscientific ideologues. you cant prove its existence and has no basis in reality.

sex as defined by biologists, is scientific. you can prove it's existence with a microscope by looking at chromosomes.

gender ideologues believe the term gender should replace the term sex as a legally binding definition , which would be a complete and total disaster because gender has no certainty in how you classify a group of people. law must be black and white have specified parameters, gender is the opposite of that.


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gender doesn't exist, its just an invented social construct term created by nonscientific ideologues. you cant prove its existence and has no basis in reality.

sex as defined by biologists, is scientific. you can prove it's existence with a microscope by looking at chromosomes. gender ideologues believe the term gender should replace the term sex as a legally binding definition , which would be a complete and total disaster because gender has no definition.

You'd be correct in defining the difference between Sex and gender, but gender is something that comes from your psyche. Your psyche is very fragile, but you are born with it, and it's important that you don't let anyone control it, including family.

Give someone enough (specific drug here, most don't need to know what), hypnotize them enough and tell them they are a dragon, and they will believe they are a dragon. The average human psyche is very weak, and it can be molded. We live in a world where people do this on on daily basis. There's a lot of people here on CEF that have done it, and continue to use this technique to control other humans.

But most people's psyches are 100% affected by words and thoughts, without the use of drugs.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have no problem with transgenders as individuals

i have a problem with replacing "sex" with "gender" in public policy

law must have parameters

gender has no parameters
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