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Can't find a value, all the basic tricks fail
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Jirachia
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmT wrote:
Doesn't work for me either, I just keep getting lua errors when trying to start it up.


Well, it works on my backup computer, but on my main computer it's like "A lua error has- *closes*"

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sry, was on holiday.

Is there any specific error code, or does it just crash with a generic one?
Can't reproduce, worked without a problem on a fresh Win 10 VM.

The only lua script in the table aside from the activation script is the TQ Big Endian Value Type assignment and TQPointer(which is not even used anymore with AOB).

Maybe it happens because there are a few 2 byte Big Endian type values?
Even though my VM had it not added, you can give it a try:
Dark Byte's Tutorial

Hope it helps
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Scottvrakis
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:20 am    Post subject: What Reply with quote

As a newbie, I have no idea what's going on, I downloaded around 3 different tables and I have no idea what I'm doing.

AOB? Gargoyal AOB? TQ_0.9.1.4 Drawn Table?

"Set Automatic"press enter to continue" to instant, or this script will not work. You can change it after it loaded!"??

Sorry for me being inept.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AOB is just the "version" name, since it works with several updates of the game.

To make choosing easier, and to secure the Tables against another Forum DDoS, I uploaded the tables to a GitHub page:
GitHub - ArchAngelRC

If you use Gargoyle as an interpreter for the game, you can use the "Trap Quest Gargoyle AOB 1.0.CT" table.

If you use any other interpreter then Gargoyle, please use the "Trap Quest AOB 1.0.CT".

If you just want the Patreon unlocker for any interpreter, use the "Trap Quest AOB Patreon Only.CT" Table.

To make the Tables work, you have to do the following:

1 - Open the Trap Quest game file with your interpreter
2 - Once open, change the option "Automatic "press enter to continue"" to instant.

3 - Open the cheat engine table according to the above criteria
4 - Once the cheat engine table has loaded and is attached your game, activate the sript by clicking on the small black box next to "Activation"

5 - When it has succcesfully loaded and opened up more options to choose from, you can change the option "Automatic "press enter to continue"" in the game to something else you desire.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArchAngelrc wrote:
Sry, was on holiday.

Is there any specific error code, or does it just crash with a generic one?
Can't reproduce, worked without a problem on a fresh Win 10 VM.

The only lua script in the table aside from the activation script is the TQ Big Endian Value Type assignment and TQPointer(which is not even used anymore with AOB).


Yeah, I could tell you had business to attend to, so it's okay. Also, I finally got a good enough screenshot of the error, but it's hard to read, so imma just type exactly what it says.

"Failure loading the trainer. Reason: This is not a valid cheat table (Error reading CEMemo1.SelStart: Unknown property: SelStart"

EDIT: I found the problem: incorrect CE version.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArchAngelrc wrote:
*Snip*


Wow, I actually wasn't expecting such a informative reply back. Thanks!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update 2.4 added a few options which messed up the table.
Use the 1.1 tables for Version 2.4 of the game.

The Gargoyle AOB is also updated after adjusting the script.

Updated the tables with the latest patreon unlocker for March.

Find them here (Sorry for the bad layout of the GitHub page, I have no clue how to do that correctly. That site is a nightmare to navigate)
GitHub ArchAngelRC
Or on my Google Drive, since i do not like GitHub
Google Drive - ArchAngelRC
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ArchAngelrc - I've been trying to figure out AOB for a while, but no luck thus far.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small tip, if you are trying to learn it, don't try it on a game which uses a 3rd application as an interpreter or platform.

Trap Quest is a bad start, since every instruction exists multiple times, making AOB almost useless, since that one Array you found will be there 4 times at 4 different locations and only 1 actually does stuff.

What I use for small games that don't have available tables is this:
- Find a value like HP/Mana/Money
- Open that value in the memory browser (right-click the value or Strg+B)
- scroll up a bit and look for something that looks unique-ish
Example with Ys Origin - imgur.com
- Copy that bit into a textfile. Close the game, Open it again, search for the same stuff again. Once you found the same array you copied earlier, copy it into the textfile again.
- Do that a few times, with as much changing setups as possible (different version, different saves, different characters, different levels, etc)
once you have a few arrays in your textfile, compare them and in a new row exchange the changing bits with "?" or "x"
example Ys Origin again
- In this example, the following never changed and stayed consistent:
Code:
3? CD CC 4C 3E FF FF 7F

(Arrays can be waaaaay larger, or even smaller then this one. generally though, the smaller, the better)
- Search for your example in CE with value type Array of Byte and checkbox "Hex" marked.
If it returns only one Adress, you are succesful.
If it returns more then one, you either have to use a different segment, use more bytes or search at a different position.
(For example, if
Code:
3? CD CC 4C 3E FF FF 7F
returns 4 adresses, add the next few bytes from the left to it :
Code:
49 1D 39 ?? ?? ?? 3? ?? ?? ?? 3? CD CC 4C 3E FF FF 7F

And so on.

Once you found an array that returns always just one, the main work is done.
To just use that array as a starting point to search for other values, use this script:
(To add a script to your table, go to the memory viewer, select the header "Tools". Choose "Auto Assemble" at the bottom. Add your script in the blank field. Don't press OK, but rather select the header "File" and choose "assign to current table")
Code:
[ENABLE]
aobscan(YOURNAME, 49 1D 39 ?? ?? ?? 3? ?? ?? ?? 3? CD CC 4C 3E FF FF 7F)
label(_YOURNAME2)
registersymbol(_YOURNAME2)

YOURNAME:
_YOURNAME2:

[DISABLE]
unregistersymbol(_YOURNAME2)


-Once you added the script, activate it.
- Now add an adress manually and use as addres "_YOURNAME2"
example imgur
- From here on out its just comparing adresses.
- Your Starting point is 0070B02D and HP that you found earlier is 0070B1A0
- In calculator programmer HEX mode, 0070B1A0(HP) - 0070B02D(starting point) is 173
- Add a new address, and put in the address field
_YOURNAME2+173

This should point now to that value until an update changes things, or something else breaks.

For an actual correct tutorial, look at Rydian's tutorials.
AOBs And Scripts and Pointer Scanner + Injection Copies + AOB To Data
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jjfly12
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Player settings, Fetishes, and Starting Stats seem to be shifted 4 bits for all entries on the 1.1 tables.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for catching that :)

Fixed and reuploaded as 1.1
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick and dirty tutorial, I learn better through doing so hopefully I'll have the hang of this soon.
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