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how do i find the value type a game is using

 
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LoneWolf5875
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: how do i find the value type a game is using Reply with quote

i wanted to do a health hack on hentaiverse, i tried everything, i dont know if its the value type or the scan type but i just couldnt do it. so please can anyone help me
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shadel
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can only guess.
I know by my own experience that games developped on unreal engine tend to use a lot of floats even when an int would do the job.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try "All" as the type? Sometimes health is a float or even a string or something.
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Varej„o
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you tried all the value types and got nothing, the value may be encrypted.
You would have to learn about backtracing.
or
The adress of the value changes during your scans, so you never get it.
You really tried: BYTE<2BYTES,4Bytes,8BYtes,Float and Double?

And...
Are you scanning right?
Tried scanning health value, max health - current health?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing that might be going on is that instead of storing current health, the game may store the damage you've taken. This would be 0 at full health and increase as you take damage, then decrease as you get healed.

Also the health might not be in the same units you see. For instance if it says 100, it may actually be stored as 10000.

You can use the value type 'All' when scanning (probably safe to change alignment to 4) and scan first when you're health is full, then just use increase/decrease/unchanged scans as you take damage and heal, then you can select 'Compare to first scan' under Scan Type and do 'unchanged value' when you are at full health again (don't forget to change back to 'Compare to last scan' before doing more).

Most of the time I just do a 4-byte value scan. The increase/decrease scans work whether it is a float or an int because floats are encoded with exponent at the high bits, you just won't see meaningful values in the results list. Just wait until you've widdled the number of results down to a manageable size and add the addresses to the table and change their types to float.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Here Is The Thing
Look Its Very Simple To Get Dynamic Address Value
"Most Popular Value Types" That Used In PC Games Are
("4 Bytes - Float - Double") But "Double" Is A Little Rare & As "Scan Type" You Must Use "Unknown initial Value" Then (Decreased Value / Increased Value) Until You Find The Dynamic Address Value You Want
Also Be Careful Not All "Exact Values" You See On Game Screen Are "4 Bytes" Because It Can Be "Float Or Other Type"
In Some Conditions You Must Use Reverse Scan Theory
Q :What Is Reverse Scan Theory?
A :Answer Is Simple Like Health Value When You Take Damage Then You Use (Increased Value / Decreased Value) Consider That Damage Is Increased And When You Gain Life The Damage Is Decreased.
But I Guess This Is Very Rare But You Should Keep All This Techniques In Your
Mind While You Search For Dynamic Address Value In The Game.
Also Some Values Can Be Encrypted So You Must Gain Knowledge About
"backtracing" But This Is Very Rare I Didn't Face Many Games With Encrypted Values

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would really love to get my hands on a cheat table that changes the values of the game.

Tried everything, scanning for exact values first and then want to all with dec/inc values but nothing came up so far.
Any progress or help, I would be glad if someone has something to post or pm me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok here is your problem.

The game is completely server sided. You are only given display values.

Your 'health' is stored as text in a buffer along with everything else that makes up the web page.

You aren't going to find a static address of your health, because whenever you perform an action on the page it is reloaded.

In other words you would have to parse the page if you want to get your health value.

At most you could make a bot.

Also i'm not sure if this is against the CEF rules or not. It seems to be completely single-player, but still an online game.

http://forum.cheatengine.org/faq.php#0
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks numerical member for the answer.
Well I guess farm is the only option
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