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COMPLETE CheatEngine Tutorial(with pictures) UPDATE JAN 2015
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KaLul0
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem with this.
I once did the tutorial completely (except of step 9 )
But now it doesnt seem to work anymore.
In step 8 i find the Value and i find out what writes to this adress (ESI)
and i hex search for it and add the found adress manually with offset 18 as i saw it in the info on my adress and THEN i cant find anything else except of ESI again. the same adress.
And if i try to start again, the first value adress i have found is not possible to find what accesses and not what writes the adress. both windows stay empty after i change the value.
I already tried to reinstall CE 6.5.

Know any help`?



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The answer is : [[[[[Tutorial-i386.exe+25A62]]+c]+14]]+18
For CE 6.5

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore the instruction mov esi,[esi]. If you look at the bottom of the extra info menu, you'll see a message that says, "The registers shown here are AFTER the instruction has been executed". Since you're moving the value of the address in esi into esi, you don't have the value esi was at before the instruction was executed; therefore, the probable value of the pointer it's giving you is wrong.

Are you sure you selected "Find out what accesses this pointer" after right clicking on the pointer in your address list and selecting "Find out what accesses this address"?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont want to know the answere. i want to find my way to it. Does anyone see a mistake i made or maybe something i have missed?


ParkourPenguin wrote:
Ignore the instruction mov esi,[esi]. If you look at the bottom of the extra info menu, you'll see a message that says, "The registers shown here are AFTER the instruction has been executed". Since you're moving the value of the address in esi into esi, you don't have the value esi was at before the instruction was executed; therefore, the probable value of the pointer it's giving you is wrong.

Are you sure you selected "Find out what accesses this pointer" after right clicking on the pointer in your address list and selecting "Find out what accesses this address"?



Yes iam sure. I just tried it again :/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KaLul0 wrote:
i dont want to know the answere. i want to find my way to it. Does anyone see a mistake i made or maybe something i have missed?


ParkourPenguin wrote:
Ignore the instruction mov esi,[esi]. If you look at the bottom of the extra info menu, you'll see a message that says, "The registers shown here are AFTER the instruction has been executed". Since you're moving the value of the address in esi into esi, you don't have the value esi was at before the instruction was executed; therefore, the probable value of the pointer it's giving you is wrong.

Are you sure you selected "Find out what accesses this pointer" after right clicking on the pointer in your address list and selecting "Find out what accesses this address"?



Yes iam sure. I just tried it again :/


According to the picture,please use information on: cmp dword ptr [esi],00 instruction or just scan for 01743328 .

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, all you need to do is just search for the 4-byte hex value "01743318" (in that picture). I don't see what your problem is.
PS: you're off by 0x10, Cake-san Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParkourPenguin wrote:
Yes, all you need to do is just search for the 4-byte hex value "01743318" (in that picture). I don't see what your problem is.
PS: you're off by 0x10, Cake-san Razz


i better give up.
the 4 byte hex you sayd i should search for is the one i already searched for to get the first pointer. i guess im just too stupid for this stuff...

EDIT:
I made it now. but just with a youtube video. I still dont queit understand what i was doing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I can absolutely guarantee you that it's not.

The value you first searched for was 0172EA98, not 01743318. It's even displayed in the picture.

Again, third time this has been said, but don't use mov esi,[esi]. Use the other one, cmp dword ptr [esi],00. The mov modifies the same register it's accessing, and since the information in the "More info" window is calculated after the instruction is executed, it's not of any use to you.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaaah i see!!!
i took the wrong adress Embarassed
just as you sayd...
ive found 2 ways now to reach my pointer back to the base adress. I still dont know why but i now know how.
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I have a lot to learn. Thanks for trekking me through!
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm new to this site and want to learn a lot about cheatengine and this very detailed tutorial is such a big help! Thank you sir!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you helped me alot. I can't get step 8 done. I have to look into it later again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i click "find out what writes to this adress" my game crashes!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapter 10 (Step9 in CE Tutorial):

Instead of fsubtr of something similiar the "what access this address" just shows me "movss".

I read something with addss but cant get it working.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:41 am    Post subject: mac user Reply with quote

Hi, i'm kinda new here... And i don't know how to download cheat engine to OS X El Captain. I've tried but i failed miserably.
Anyone knows how can i do it??

thanks
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