Cheat Engine

Krähne

Yes, yes... i know... i have to have enough knowledge to do something so advanced.

Anyway, i mean, is not good make something that already exists, but maybe this new CE can be undetected for most game protections.

So, what you think?, VOTE!

P.S.: (In the first option) that is not the point, i mean, i do not want replace the Cheat Engine, (that should be imposible xD), i just want to know if is a good idea... i was sarcastic with that option.

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:24 am Post subject:

Sure, it might be undetected for 4 to 5 days, but then the detectors will have updated their signature database with the cil code of your ce version and then you have to find out what is detected and edit that, and repeat that every 3 to 4 days

Krähne · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:04 am Post subject:

But... What if the CE is private?, I mean... What if only one group of people will use it?, I say this because two friends have created a rare private version of the CE in C++, and is currently undetectable, this CE was done the last year.

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:13 am Post subject:

Sure, if it's private it will stay undetected.
some versions of ce based on the current sourcecode are also still undetected (To the other people: No , I won't tell you which one or where to get it)

ej52 · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:03 am Post subject:

I was thinking the exact same thing last nyt as i hav started codin my own opcode library in C# Razz

atom0s · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:34 am Post subject:

Completely possible sure, but when you get into the kernel layer of things, C# wont be able to produce the drivers and such for example. You will still have to write those in C (or another language that can produce a driver properly.) Most your C# application will do is wrap the calls in your driver and just be a front-end.

If you want it to stay undetected, don't give it out to anyone, not even friends. Regardless of what they say it will get leaked, they will try to profit off your undetected cheat, etc. and it will land up getting detected. If you want to make something and keep it undetected for as long as possible, don't give it out to anyone.

Krähne · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:38 am Post subject:

ej52 · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:54 am Post subject:

AhMunRa · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject:

They always get out. I was given a for pay cheat that a guy had a 2 day pass on. He gave me a copy to bypass the auth checks to allow him to use it permanently. I did and sent him a copy. And what did he do? Started selling someone elses work as his own. I think it was 2 weeks later the thing was detectable under all the games it worked under.

Krähne · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:44 pm Post subject:

NoMercy · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:30 am Post subject:

You could also try to make a .dll, so you don't need a driver and you've easy memory things since you are inside the process.

Krähne · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:15 am Post subject:

NoMercy · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:49 am Post subject:

For a .dll you need memcpy or any of those functions. If those are hooked it's not hard to write ur own in Kernel with KeAttachProcess().

Krähne · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:56 am Post subject:

atom0s · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: