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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: CE Settings - Extra |
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how would each and every setting affect the use of CE?
i wanna toggle 2 different breakpoints, or rather change registers at 2 different locations.. so i played around with the settings unknowingly..
i tried on different computers, and somehow different results show
computer 1:
this computer has the default extra settings... when i change registers at one location, CE will prompt "this will attach the debugger".. i go to another register and change register.. it works
computer 2:
this computer cannot run on the default settings.. once i change any one register, my game freezes.. so i have to use the kernelmode debugger.. but using the kernelmode debugger somehow only allows me to change ONE register at a time.. (or rather, changing it at a 2nd location gives no effect)
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:35 am Post subject: |
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let me gues, maple?
use hardware breakpoints for breakpoints instead of int3. It won't write a int3 instruction when breaking.
levis, if you where using the beta of ce 5.2 before I recommend reformatting your computer. Or search through the register and remove all mentioning of cedriver52 as passible, and reboot.
then uninstall ce.
reinstall ce
and then it should work
I get tired of people that used the buggy 5.2 beta I gave to a few people and now can't get it to work anymore
you can set more than 1 breakpoint with the kernelmode debugger , the beta driver just couldn't and you still have that loaded
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Dark Byte wrote: |
I get tired of people that used the buggy 5.2 beta I gave to a few people and now can't get it to work anymore
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Ya the 5.2 beta screwed my XPpro from using the"debugger"
I cleaned the registry of every trace of any CE.
(including the ones that I had to change permissions for)
Still can't attach the debugger the game(s) just close and CE locks on "Changed addresses"
When I try to close the box I get a "Access violation error"
It works fine on a clean duel boot install.
Also the HyperScan works, well kinda,
If you wait after the error message long enough the HyperScan will take place.
(very fast indeed!)
It will show the addresses found but "Next Scan" remains grayed out.
Perhaps a timing issue?
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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wierd.. i dont remember having installed the 5.2 beta on my computer that doesnt work for this case... instead, the computer that i can run all my "registers changing" on, has been installed with the beta before..
ok here goes.. say i have this code 00112233 - jne 123456.. i wanna change the register to zero flag... i've tested this on my computer (which has been beta-ed before) and it works. now i go to my friend's comp (no beta-ed), and i try it and CE just freezes. now i go to a 3rd comp (no beta-ed), and try it and it works... somehow.. lol
getting very confused with this... btw which do u suggest i use? kernelmode or the default windows debugger?
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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somehow i use default settings ie: open process only...
tried on 2 diff comps again... one works, while the other hangs midway... issit becos of amd vs intel?
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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if the default debugger works uses that, it's more compatible/stable
There are some differences between intel and amd, but I had some people with amd's test it and they had no problem.
One other thing that might/will mess stuff up is running protectionsoftware like blackice, processguard ,norton etc...
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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well sorry to bump up an old post.. hey guys, i just did a format on my comp, so that'd should have cleared all registry values of 5.2 beta... however, it seems that i have a different problem now...
before format:
my settings was just "open process" and all works well.. the default debugger and all... (and yes i installed 5.2beta once)
now after format:
if i use just "open process" my game crashes after awhile.. so i suppose the default debugger is messing things up.. and if i use kernelmode, many things cant be done...
i dont suppose it has anything to do with hardware (ie Amd vs Intel) i suppose its the software environment? any advice?
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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do you open the process by clicking ok or by clicking on attach debugger ? (the ok one is prefered)
if it is a game with protection go to settings and disable "use hyperscan when possible" the probe itself can mess up protections
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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i click the "ok" only.. i tried ur modified dbk32.sys which u uploaded in another thread... and even with that, i use kernelmode debugger, the game still crashes in awhile
my settings was just "use kernelmode debugger options whenever possible"
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I guess the game just doesn't like being debugged then... (e.g starforce games)
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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erm.. i dun think so.. a friend of mine has the exact same settings as mine.. his worked.. lol.. so this is confusing me alot
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Got any special software running like norton, blackice, processguard, jamilah, or other rootkit ?
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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special programs? no blackice.. no processguard..
i have norton antivirus and norton ghost on my system tray though.. does it count?
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Dark Byte Site Admin Reputation: 458
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I heard from some people that norton interferes. But usually when used with other protection software.
But I really think it is your settings. Download cheat engine , install it, then uninstall it, and reboot. Then reinstall it and all your settings will be reset to default.
(or delete hkey_current_users\software\cheat engine) and reboot
Also, what are the results when you run the kerneldataretriever?
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levis Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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it says the debugoffset isnt found but i'm using XP so it should be 188.. so and i click ok... and these was it:
NTUserBuildHwndListCallNumber 312
NTUserQueryWindowCallNumber 483
NTUserFindWindowExCallNumber 378
NTUserGetForegroundWindowCallNumber 404
activelinkOffset 136
processnameOffset 372
debugportOffset 188
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