Cheat Engine

[TMC]

So I get Cheat Engine, great, seems fantastic. I'm been struggling through Labrynth's incomplete tutorials for the past, FOUR HOURS. FOUR. No offense to Labrynth, but when you're writing something for someone else to learn from, you have to write it as if the person doesn't even know what a computer is. I had ALOT of trouble finding out how he got the things he did or how he did them, but they were at a great pace, as I'm a slow reader and I like to digest things I read for a bit, kudos on that. But at this point I'm ready to just drop it and never come back. You guys dont know how many times I've tried to just make a trainer that freezes the credit value in Star Wars: Empire at War - Forces of Corruption. It just doesn't work, the whole flash tutorial on the 4 pointer one had to be the worst out of all of them, it left me guessing after the fifth watch through. I'd prefer to go through the tutorials myself, but the tutorials bugged out during step 5 and basicly terminated itself, I can't even get past step one now. Here's what I've made so far, I really would like any non-sarcastic/non-flame help you guys can offer to help me deviate from ripping the rest of my hair from my head.

ADDON: It apparently wont let me post the attachment, I did indeed make a trainer though.

EDIT: I never actually did learn where alot of the things came from, such as in the single pointer step, labrynth says the number that you can see for EDX I think is 166, but he somehow gets a 300 number.

[Labyrnth]

eeewww,


I would say you are having allot of troubles.
Tell you what PM me we will talk.
I will help you out, I can see you are ranting. Also it is possible you did try exactly what you said.
So PM me, and i will see where you are getting confused.
Maybe your better at hands on learning like allot of people .

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The problem with most beginner are they choose a game to hack at that is way over there understanding of hacking.

As far as writing tutorials for someone who has never done it before.
Well im sorry about that, It is very hard to write a flawless tutorial for people when you know how to do it yourself.
You tend to start jumping right into the meat of whats going on and forget about the new guy sometimes.

Most of them i try to make it very detailed,...

[TMC]

[kkid28]

I got some basic tutorials on my site (which hasn't been updated in quite some time... <.<

http://www.freewebs.com/cheatenginetuts/ They've got pictures and everything for some of the more basic aspects of CE. Including code injection and multi-level pointers.

Also kudos to Labyrnth for keeping his cool

[Garonne]

Well, I think the tutorial is quite alright, although the part on pointers could be improved a little bit.

I've just finished my Table for "Divine Divinity" and got some Level 5 Pointers within. Only once I got a direct pointer.

I recently figured out how to catch the right adresses though.

My hint: Always ask CE "what reads from this address/pointer". Don't query what writes or accesses the adresses. Don't know why, but the calculations for registervalues seem to result in somehow bad results if you search for write or access.

Step 1: Find the Adress itself (I sometimes use ArtMoney for this task as it offers some search-methods CE does not have) and manually add the result to CE (as ArtMoney does not understand multilayered pointers).

Step 2: Well... "What reads from this adress"

WARNING: Close the Popup window with the process-id by hitting the X. The Main-Window should still read the Program-Name in the Thread-Line.

Step 3: Now you take one of the code sniplets found and hit "more info"

Step 4: CE should tell you a hex value you probably should search for.

Step 5: Well, do as CE told you. Search Hex, 4 Bytes with the value specified.

Step 6: You get 1 or more results. The worst I was facing was about 50 but manageable. Add all to your Table.

Step 7: Do a "what reads" search for each and every address. All but one should return NO result meaning they are waste and can be deleted. The one which is read is the right one.

Step 8: Add the Address to the Pointer-Queue for your Game-Value and add the required offset (the value from the Code-Segment (Step 3) can be considered as hint which matches most of the time) sometimes you need to calculate them yourself.

Step 9: Repeat Steps 2 to 8 as often as nessissary (See Step 10)

Step 10: You are finished if you hit a address that behaves a bit strange:
When I wanted to add the address to the pointer-queue I found out that the address was not stored as displayed (4 Byte Hex) but as Process+Offset (i.e. I got div.exe+2F335A or something). THIS is the final address. The Adress is displayed as usual unless you try to edit it.

Step 11: Save your table. It should now have a pointer based on Thread+Offset and take 1 to x steps to find the final address. This address should be valid most of the time. (I still get some derivations though.)

[Labyrnth]

[TMC]

Its thecheat981 at yahoo dot com

[ReLoaD HacKeR]

ok well i can do most things with CE and i didnt even get past step 3 of the tut... but most of it is because i have to try everything 500 times untill i figure out how to do it
BTW kkid28 sites pretty good