Cheat Engine

Marc

Hiho,

tried to cheat "Sacred" using the very informative Threadhttp://www.syndiv.com/ce/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162&highlight=sacred

So I started Sacred and CE, enabled the arrows and searched for 256, as "2 bytes". Got 120.000 hits.

Disabled the arrows and made a filtering 2nd search for the value 0, and
-suprise- got over 54.000.000 hits.

Re-enabled arrows, filtered for 256 and got even more: 55.574.000 hits.

Ehrm, in my eyes, the number of hits should decrease, not increase Confused

By the way, after the progress bar reached 100% and the remaining time was 0:00:00 it still took 3 minutes to finish searching, perhaps here is some connection. But don't rely on this because the pc I used has 512 MB ram and Sacred used 685 MB of it Evil or Very Mad

best regards,
Marc

Dark Byte · Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject:

I've got 2 questions to pinpoint the problem:
Was hyperscan enabled? (Use the scanning routine in the CEHOOK.dll or in the exe)
Was fastscan enabled ? (every scan has 2 seperate implementations, fastscan and normal scan)

Marc · Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject:

Hyperscan was disabled (in fact, could not get it to work on my 3 xp systems, always said something about scan engine not responding, most likely search did not start)

FastScan was enabled.

If there's something I can do to help further, don't hesitate to ask Smile

Dark Byte · Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject:

I supose you didn't use 2 versions of Cheat Engine at the same time right ? (can really screw up scanning)

On the subject of hyperscan not working:
Did you try it on different games or just the same game ?
Does the hyperscan checkbox stay checked longer than 5 seconds or does it uncheck itself ?

When the hyperscan checkbox is enabled and you go to the memory view and then view->dissect windows... does it then list a window called "this is the CE hyperscan window"

In view->enumerate dll's should be a entry called CEHook

Does your system support hyperthreading?

Dark Byte · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:33 am Post subject:

I can't reproduce the bug, and the code looks ok.
What version of CE did you use ?
How much hard disk space do you have free on the drive ce is installed ?

donpiano · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:53 am Post subject:

I did the search using 4 bytes, though. Don't know if that would make any difference in your search, but that's what I did.

Marc · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:39 am Post subject:

Hi,

back for good...

Dark Byte · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:08 am Post subject:

It really shouldn't be messing up if you don't have much memory because windows still has a swapfile. (unless you've disabled it, but I doubt you'd be able to play the game then)

about hyperscan not working: I understand now. The hyperscan window is a seperate thread in the NWN game, because NWN is running at the same time with a higher than normal priority the hyperscan window hardly gets any time to increase it's own priority to higher and then start the scan. (normally that window runs at almost the lowest priority so it won't interfere with the game)

Version 4.3 (and 4.2) wait for a few seconds to determine if it's working or not (Next version will check it in a different way)

Because you've got a quite slow system (I mean running NWN at the same time) and no hyperthreading this happens. (You can propably prevent this if you minimize NWN completly, if it's possible. Or you can use the pause before scanning option)

Marc · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:24 am Post subject:

Dark Byte · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:41 am Post subject:

I've changed the 4.3 to 4.4
some network version changes/additions (like speedhack)
A stealth option to hide Cheat Engine from other programs
Better support for creating processes that create another process
resized a window, renamed a window
and some other stuff I havn't added yet

Marc · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject:

Sounds nice, thanks!

May I talk you into supporting the windows hotkeys?
For example supporting the ctrl-v/ctrl-c hotkeys to copy the address when changing a memory address to a pointer? And I'd love to close a msgbox with the escape-key. Would be really cool.

Would it slow down the search speed to display the number of found adresses instead of the 01010-scroller in the search-box?

Perhaps you could even throw in some eye candy like changing the "selec process" window into a ListView with separated columns for PID and Name, allowing to sort the windows/processes alphabetical...

Perhaps I'm not a good coder, but I'm great at having wishes Wink

emperor · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject:

No now you've done it...you asked for information on the next version. You are so cruel. Now i won't be able to stand waiting for it. LOL.
Um and now i am curious...do those network additions include debugger stuff?

Dark Byte · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject:

Not right now, but I'm looking into it.