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what to do when value doesnt change

 
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alpharenji
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: what to do when value doesnt change Reply with quote

how can i make the value change when it reverts back to the original I Have tried all types but I only get the one value and speed hacking is turned off
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its online server-sided game then don't waste your time, and this forum doesn't support online game hacking.

if its not then, there's possibilities:

- you found graphical value
- there's some sort of anti cheat
- an instruction constantly writing to your address
- some kind of a security

and couple more possibilities, in any way you need to have lil knowledge in assembly and the uses of the debugger.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually find what writes the address and replace the code with random stuff. (right click, find what writes this)

Works in 50% of cases.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its offline and trying to replace value with random stuff didn't work
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like pimpmyname said

you found the address and value

find out what writes to this address

for example

mov [edi+20],eax

make it like

mov [edi+20],(int)999999

then that value will always be 999999, will not revert or change since the original value from eax is replaced with value 999999
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ill try that
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squall0833 wrote:
like pimpmyname said

you found the address and value

find out what writes to this address

for example

mov [edi+20],eax

make it like

mov [edi+20],(int)999999

then that value will always be 999999, will not revert or change since the original value from eax is replaced with value 999999


after trying it my value on screen did change but only in appearance but it didnt really change the value because even though it showed 999999 I was actually down to zero
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classic case of finding the display value rather than the actual value. To find the actual value, you can either:

Look through the assembly code for where the real value is loaded from
This involves knowing asm, and potentially using breakpoints

or

Do a scan for increased/decreased/unchanged values
This way, you accept that you don't know what the initial value is, which seems to be the case.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still cant seem to do it nothing I do seems to work on this game
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What game is it? Somebody here may have dealt with it before.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paradise island 2
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alpharenji wrote:
< game name >


You should remove the name of the game from the thread otherwise this is going to get locked. We do not support online / multiplayer game hacking on this site. Specifically when the name of the game or direct info that can determine the game is posted.

http://forum.cheatengine.org/faq.php#0

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paradise island 2 is an offline game not online
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