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mindoff

Can CE act like ollydbg just open a process or program and suspend it at the entry point?

Some resource loading may at this point,I need to pause the app and inject the code from CE then let the app run again.

Can CE do that?

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:42 am Post subject:

celua.txt:

Dark Byte · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:07 am Post subject:

set the windows debugger, and then in the processlist click file->create process

mindoff · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:19 am Post subject:

This method works for some game and some game just crash.

So what shall I do with the crash one?

The crash one is a 64 bit app,and I have tried IDA to debug it,crash too.
x64dbg works fine with breakpoint and resume.

So what could be the problem?How can I resume it with CE without crash?

The problem is first time the app break at entry point,it's fine,but if resume or CE with run,then it will crash.IDA is the same.

x64dbg works with no problem,free break point and resume any place,any time.

x64dbg is not CE,it can not do the easy cheat part,so this is very annoying

Dark Byte · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:27 pm Post subject:

after modifying the memory, just go to the processlist and reselect the process. (or any other process)

the debugger will detach and resume the process

mindoff · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:50 pm Post subject:

It works,and interesting.
Can't help wondering what cause CE and IDA crash and x64dbg not crash.
Think it will be much easier to debug with CE and write the cheat code without crash.
Then I don't need to switch between CE and x64dbg.

Dark Byte · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject:

give me an open source application that crashes when debugged and not on x64dbg and i'll try to pinpoint where it goes wrong.

mindoff · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:37 pm Post subject:

Sadly I can't give you bacause the App is KOF14 CBT I think CBT it means close beta test or something and the resource file is nearly 16GB in a single assets.wad file,I can do nothing about it.Sorry.

And for other 64 bit app like I write with visual studio myselft,it just work fine.
Right now I can find, Just this kof14 exe crash.

OldCheatEngineUser · Jul 26, 2020

very interesting, why would ida and ce crash the process.
while snapshot(x64dbg) doesnt, are you using stealth plugin for x64dbg? or any other plugin that made for x64?

what about debugging methods have you tried any?
and about ida, (to me personally) their debugger is shit. but their disassembler is so great.

i also would like to see in future updates that ce can find the entry point in executables.

question:
we know there is entry point and we can find it using PEiD, but does dlls have entry point too?

mindoff · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:14 am Post subject:

No,I did not use any plugin,just x64dbg.

And I found it's not that bad,I can use x64dbg load the exe and then attach CE to the process.

Meaning I use x64dbg to debug,CE to inject cheat code.

Temporarily soloved my problem and fit my need