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How does the flow of code work in AA?

 
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spiritcooking
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: How does the flow of code work in AA? Reply with quote

I'm messing around on the game terraria, and I created a godmode cheat:

Code:

[ENABLE]

aobscan(INJECT,29 82 40 03 00 00 83) // should be unique
alloc(newmem,$1000)

label(return)

newmem:
  sub [edx+00000340],(int)0
  jmp return

INJECT:
  jmp newmem
  nop

return:
registersymbol(INJECT)


[DISABLE]

INJECT:
  db 29 82 40 03 00 00 83

unregistersymbol(INJECT)
dealloc(newmem)


The code above is functional.

When I declare INJECT: above newmem:, it stops working. When I declare INJECT: below return:, it also stops working. The game crashes in both scenarios.

Can anyone explain why this is the case?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because
aobscan(INJECT,29 82 40 03 00 00 83) // should be unique

Inject is blahgameaddress

newmem is allocated memory

when you place inject above allocated memory, you're writing jibberish to your game code. When you place inject below return, you're writing jibberish and return points nowhere.

If this doesn't make sense to you, i suggest learning assembly and do ce tutorial because it's a noob question and you can't understand it completely without understand assembly and how syntax works. For now, just copy paste until you eventually understand it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STN wrote:
Because
aobscan(INJECT,29 82 40 03 00 00 83) // should be unique

Inject is blahgameaddress

newmem is allocated memory

when you place inject above allocated memory, you're writing jibberish to your game code. When you place inject below return, you're writing jibberish and return points nowhere.

If this doesn't make sense to you, i suggest learning assembly and do ce tutorial because it's a noob question and you can't understand it completely without understand assembly and how syntax works. For now, just copy paste until you eventually understand it.


Despite the arrogance, thanks for your reply.

I understand in the first scenario, that it would write the contents of newmem where INJECT points to. I do not understand what you mean by "When you place inject below return, you're writing jibberish and return points nowhere".

What jibberish are you referring to in this case? Shouldn't it just write the jmp newmem and nop to INJECT?

Also, how does return: know to return back to INJECT? Is there an implied mov instruction?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also don't forget that memory is writtrn in blocks in the order they are defined.

if inject is before newmem the jmp newmem will be written before the newmem block has been filled with code.

if inject runs before that, crash

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
also don't forget that memory is writtrn in blocks in the order they are defined.

if inject is before newmem the jmp newmem will be written before the newmem block has been filled with code.

if inject runs before that, crash


That makes sense. I understand that newmem: is a memory block, because I allocated memory for it. But what about return:?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiritcooking wrote:
because I allocated memory for it. But what about return

since you allocated a new block of memory inside that process you have to jump to it, to execute your code.
so you need to return back to where you jumped from, to continue executing the process code.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

return in this case for your script is just a label telling CE that the address after your jump and nop should be considered what 'return' equals to.
For example, if your AOB is found at address: 0x1234A000, and you then place your jmp and nop there, that would be:

Code:
0x1234A000 - jmp <offset_to_newmem>
0x1234A006 - nop
0x1234A007 - <Whatever opcodes follow here> <-- This address is what return would mean to CE.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
spiritcooking wrote:
because I allocated memory for it. But what about return

since you allocated a new block of memory inside that process you have to jump to it, to execute your code.
so you need to return back to where you jumped from, to continue executing the process code.


I understand it needs to return. Does the AA interpreter just add a mov instruction back to INJECT after the [ENABLE] clause is finished?

Edit: @Atom So basically, return will point to INJECT+7? Doesn't that make the return label redundant? Can I omit it?

Edit2: It's not redundant since I need to jump to it from newmem after executing my code injection. Thanks for the help guys.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrogance? Oh because i said it's a noob question. Well, 6 posts later and you're still confused about the basics of code injection.

Like i said this will fly over your head because you're clueless about the basics especially statements like these make you go a big What the?

Quote:
Does the AA interpreter just add a mov instruction back to INJECT after the [ENABLE] clause is finished?


What??

Quote:
Edit: @Atom So basically, return will point to INJECT+7? Doesn't that make the return label redundant? Can I omit it?


Do you know what this is for? This is your answer
jmp return



PS: I have actually been toning down and trying to be nice to complete idiots (due to personal life changes, trying to be a better person) but this serves me right. I found your thread because it was being discussed on a chatroom how stupid you are but i went ahead, acted nice and didn't tell you how stupid you are and i get labeled as arrogant Laughing People are very nice when i act my usual condescending self

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STN wrote:
Arrogance? Oh because i said it's a noob question. Well, 6 posts later and you're still confused about the basics of code injection.

Like i said this will fly over your head because you're clueless about the basics especially statements like these make you go a big What the?

Quote:
Does the AA interpreter just add a mov instruction back to INJECT after the [ENABLE] clause is finished?


What??

Quote:
Edit: @Atom So basically, return will point to INJECT+7? Doesn't that make the return label redundant? Can I omit it?


Do you know what this is for? This is your answer
jmp return



PS: I have actually been toning down and trying to be nice to complete idiots (due to personal life changes, trying to be a better person) but this serves me right. I found your thread because it was being discussed on a chatroom how stupid you are but i went ahead, acted nice and didn't tell you how stupid you are and i get labeled as arrogant Laughing


Thanks for the laugh dude. I knew calling you out on that would get you tilted. Judging by your comment, it's clear that you have some anger issues. It seems you know this yourself. I'll ask this in the most subtle way I can, my little snowflake. Can you leave my thread?
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