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Trying to obtain unobtainable outfit in AC Syndicate....

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:09 am    Post subject: Trying to obtain unobtainable outfit in AC Syndicate.... Reply with quote

Since editing game file isn't possible yet,i just try it with ce
But i encountered some problems while doing so.

let say i want to change Elise outfit for evie to her fight club outfit.

first i search 'Elise'(the name of the outfit in inventarory) as string.

and then i freeze the values of all the addresses(total 12 addresses,strange.) as the character changed to her fight club outfit.

But at the end when the fight is over,the character changed back to elise outfit as normal.Nothing has changed.

so i wonder how to obtain the outfit that can only be wore in specific mission or event using ce.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freezing the name will do nothing.

if you have more than 1 outfit then you can find your outfit address, by changing it and search fot unknown initial value and the type gonna be 4bytes.

once you found the address, then go to that mission, once there return back to CE and save whatever the current value for mission outfit.

complete your mission, go back to normal game play. and paste the value you copied during the mission.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
freezing the name will do nothing.

if you have more than 1 outfit then you can find your outfit address, by changing it and search fot unknown initial value and the type gonna be 4bytes.

once you found the address, then go to that mission, once there return back to CE and save whatever the current value for mission outfit.

complete your mission, go back to normal game play. and paste the value you copied during the mission.


thank you for the reply!

the game is so huge that starting searching as unknown initial value will slow down my pc,and very time consuming.

i wonder if there are some alternative way to find the id....

or if anyone found it,please share the id for real quick,it will be really awesome.

many thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am trying to find the vlaue,i noticed 2 values that can only be scaned durning the fight club event,but then,it will change it's address when you get out the fight....strange.


edit 1 :

ok,i used the pointer scan,and slove the always changing address.
when i change the value to one of the value that i got from the fight club event,something stranges happened....

i.imgur AWUcvWE (i can't post url's yet)

so the value isn't the model/outfit 's value,but something close.


i will keep updating my progress here,feel free to give advices
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redcomet wrote:
i am trying to find the vlaue,i noticed 2 values that can only be scaned durning the fight club event,but then,it will change it's address when you get out the fight....strange.


edit 1 :

ok,i used the pointer scan,and slove the always changing address.
when i change the value to one of the value that i got from the fight club event,something stranges happened....

http://imgur.com/AWUcvWE (i can't post url's yet)

so the value isn't the model/outfit 's value,but something close.


i will keep updating my progress here,feel free to give advices


this might be the graphical value, try going 4 bytes after and 4 bytes before.
and you should get the right one.

all the bests.

EDIT: you might also find it 1byte after, 2bytes after or 3bytes after.
because they are roughly together.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
redcomet wrote:
i am trying to find the vlaue,i noticed 2 values that can only be scaned durning the fight club event,but then,it will change it's address when you get out the fight....strange.


edit 1 :

ok,i used the pointer scan,and slove the always changing address.
when i change the value to one of the value that i got from the fight club event,something stranges happened....

imgur AWUcvWE (i can't post url's yet)

so the value isn't the model/outfit 's value,but something close.


i will keep updating my progress here,feel free to give advices


this might be the graphical value, try going 4 bytes after and 4 bytes before.
and you should get the right one.

all the bests.

EDIT: you might also find it 1byte after, 2bytes after or 3bytes after.
because they are roughly together.


i am sorry,i am new at cheat engine,may i ask what 's bytes after and bytes before,thanks.

edit 1:
this is the table during the fight club event
i.imgur.c o m/T1TY55p.png

this is the table after the event and go back to free roam in default outfit(simply evie)
i.imgur.c o m/aJGegHK.png

this is the table when i change the outfit to another outfit(elise)
i.imgur.c o m/8Z6LcsK.png
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually i dont believe it called 4bytes technically, i think 1 nibble (4 bits).

anyway, for example:
address 00001110
4 bytes (or 4bits) after would be:
address 00001114

its possible to be between 1110 and 1114 (1111/1112/1113)

also one more thing that may help you, (self experience)
when i find some IDs for in game things (weapons,grenade types, med kits typrs...etc.)
i cant write directly to that value. because i believe and think in two things, 1. theres an instruction constantly writing to that address, 2. it wont change unless some specific piece of code is executed.

anyway dont care about what i said (point 1. & 2.)
i found such easy method for cases like this.
is finding what writes to this address and overwrite the value that passed in.

it did work for other things that clothing (i never found a game that will change my outfit during a mission otherwise i would try...)

but its basically the same. 100% the same.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
actually i dont believe it called 4bytes technically, i think 1 nibble (4 bits).

anyway, for example:
address 00001110
4 bytes (or 4bits) after would be:
address 00001114

its possible to be between 1110 and 1114 (1111/1112/1113)

also one more thing that may help you, (self experience)
when i find some IDs for in game things (weapons,grenade types, med kits typrs...etc.)
i cant write directly to that value. because i believe and think in two things, 1. theres an instruction constantly writing to that address, 2. it wont change unless some specific piece of code is executed.

anyway dont care about what i said (point 1. & 2.)
i found such easy method for cases like this.
is finding what writes to this address and overwrite the value that passed in.

it did work for other things that clothing (i never found a game that will change my outfit during a mission otherwise i would try...)

but its basically the same. 100% the same.


thanks for your descriptive explaination.

i noticed my game will be automatically closed when i try to use the find what writes to the address function.

is it normal? if not,what to do to prevent it.

really appreciate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, not normal.

go to setting >> debugger options >> select VEH debugger.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
no, not normal.

go to setting >> debugger options >> select VEH debugger.


the whole debugger option is greyed out,i can't select it

yet i enabled the 'try to prevent detection of the debugger' option,but the game still closed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes grayed because you are attached to a game, close CE and try again.

EDIT: you can change it before attaching to any process

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
yes grayed because you are attached to a game, close CE and try again.

EDIT: you can change it before attaching to any process


oh,silly me,haha
thanks for correcting me,and now the dubugger is working.

after changing the outfit while finding,i got 3 opcodes,i don't know what i can do with that.

edit:i tried 4 bytes before and after,1,2,3 bytes after respectively,nothing seems to happen,only 2 bytes after has the same result as the address i found.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you tried changing the value of that address?

about opcode, well here it depend on you.
and the game too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldCheatEngineUser wrote:
did you tried changing the value of that address?

about opcode, well here it depend on you.
and the game too.


yeah,both addresses and values.
i found out that only outfits with cape are affected by the value changing.
outfit without cape are not being affected.

maybe i need to use the code injector to inject the opcode i found?

edit1: i finally understand what's the feeling of so close yet so far away...
i am pretty sure the pointscaned address is the adress of the changing model action,but i just don't know how to recreate the action to change the game model.....sigh...


edit2:
some glitchy pics when i apply the fight club outfit value to the adress

i.imgur.c o m/lP7kEyF.jpg

even the male character was affected.
i.imgur.c o m/5D5Na6n.jpg

but this outfit won't be affected by the value.
i.imgur.c o m/hcoaYF2.jpg
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