Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 315 Location: P. Sherman 42, Wallaby Way, Sydney
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:54 am Post subject:
Clifford wrote:
Literally wealth redistribution between developing and developed nations.
Your tax dollars will now cripple the economy to cool the earth 0.2 degrees!
Countries aren't even contractually bound to any promises or deals they make, and there is no penalty for not following through.
Fucking fake ass solution to a fake ass crisis.
Paris climate summit is globalist trash.
What are you talking about? goal is to reduce temperature rise from 4 °C to 1.5 °C . Without US rise will be 1.8 °C, but thats the point, every country contributes and decrease is huge!
Also not fully related to the topic, Trump doesn't know what European Union is.
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 48 Location: California
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:27 am Post subject:
Seems like you aren't informed about the agreement. Not every country contributes and its heavily gravitated towards the US. The US is essentially footing the bill. If you're not American, that's good for you because someone is spotting you for lunch.
Also, Trump said he'll reenter the agreement when it becomes fair to the US. I'm all for helping improve the environment, but if other countries are not pulling equal weight and if it puts America at an economic disadvantage against other countries then it wouldn't make sense.
Im not an expert in the nuts and bolts of it, but this philosophy seems to make sense to me.
I'm not sure why you're so upset about this, its not like all advancement to protect our environment stopped when US pulled out. Its not like the agreement was an effective way to protect the environment either.
Its like your mind is so fixated on this one particular issue that has no significance to the rest of the moving parts and the only reason you put so much attention to it is because Trump is doing it and is being blown out of proportion.
The world isn't ending. This agreement isn't a make or break. That's not how the world works. Kinda sounds like you're just looking for something to be mad at. Because this was not an irrational maneuver nor was it a meanuever motivated by bad intention or ignorance.
Also, nobody knows what EU is anymore.
Hurr durr look at me, I'm a young millennial that's college educated. I totally know everything that's going on. I took a class on this. I mean. Like these people that spend their entire career studying this don't know anything. Even though I don't have a career or any sort of work experience besides flipping burgers, I can totally make better decisions than these idiots can
More than what meets the eye kiddo _________________
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 315 Location: P. Sherman 42, Wallaby Way, Sydney
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:06 pm Post subject:
Antagonist wrote:
Seems like you aren't informed about the agreement. Not every country contributes and its heavily gravitated towards the US. The US is essentially footing the bill. If you're not American, that's good for you because someone is spotting you for lunch.
Also, Trump said he'll reenter the agreement when it becomes fair to the US. I'm all for helping improve the environment, but if other countries are not pulling equal weight and if it puts America at an economic disadvantage against other countries then it wouldn't make sense.
Im not an expert in the nuts and bolts of it, but this philosophy seems to make sense to me.
I'm not sure why you're so upset about this, its not like all advancement to protect our environment stopped when US pulled out. Its not like the agreement was an effective way to protect the environment either.
Its like your mind is so fixated on this one particular issue that has no significance to the rest of the moving parts and the only reason you put so much attention to it is because Trump is doing it and is being blown out of proportion.
The world isn't ending. This agreement isn't a make or break. That's not how the world works. Kinda sounds like you're just looking for something to be mad at. Because this was not an irrational maneuver nor was it a meanuever motivated by bad intention or ignorance.
Also, nobody knows what EU is anymore.
Hurr durr look at me, I'm a young millennial that's college educated. I totally know everything that's going on. I took a class on this. I mean. Like these people that spend their entire career studying this don't know anything. Even though I don't have a career or any sort of work experience besides flipping burgers, I can totally make better decisions than these idiots can
More than what meets the eye kiddo
Ok, renegotiate Paris climate agreement? with whom? will he make 194 world leaders come to see what he has to propose.
It's fair agreement, everyone sets his goals. Obama set up American goals. Of course that emerging markets have to be able to build more coal power plants since coal is cheap and they have quite a lot of citizens without electricity.
Nobody knows what European Union is? How about economical and political union? And that is the biggest economical union. Economical, meaning it has single market.
Last edited by paupav on Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
Seems like you aren't informed about the agreement. Not every country contributes and its heavily gravitated towards the US. The US is essentially footing the bill. If you're not American, that's good for you because someone is spotting you for lunch.
Also, Trump said he'll reenter the agreement when it becomes fair to the US. I'm all for helping improve the environment, but if other countries are not pulling equal weight and if it puts America at an economic disadvantage against other countries then it wouldn't make sense.
Im not an expert in the nuts and bolts of it, but this philosophy seems to make sense to me.
I'm not sure why you're so upset about this, its not like all advancement to protect our environment stopped when US pulled out. Its not like the agreement was an effective way to protect the environment either.
Its like your mind is so fixated on this one particular issue that has no significance to the rest of the moving parts and the only reason you put so much attention to it is because Trump is doing it and is being blown out of proportion.
The world isn't ending. This agreement isn't a make or break. That's not how the world works. Kinda sounds like you're just looking for something to be mad at. Because this was not an irrational maneuver nor was it a meanuever motivated by bad intention or ignorance.
Also, nobody knows what EU is anymore.
Hurr durr look at me, I'm a young millennial that's college educated. I totally know everything that's going on. I took a class on this. I mean. Like these people that spend their entire career studying this don't know anything. Even though I don't have a career or any sort of work experience besides flipping burgers, I can totally make better decisions than these idiots can
More than what meets the eye kiddo
Ok, renegotiate Paris climate agreement? with whom? will he make 194 world leaders come to see what he has to propose.
It's fair agreement, everyone sets his goals. Obama sat up American goals. Of course that emerging markets have to be able to build more coal power plants since coal is cheap and they have quite a lot of citizens without electricity.
Nobody knows what European Union is? How about economical and political union? And that is the biggest economical union. Economical, meaning it has single market.
The Single Market is not only countries that are a part of the EU and the EU is a fucking shitheap.
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 315 Location: P. Sherman 42, Wallaby Way, Sydney
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:24 pm Post subject:
konr wrote:
paupav wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
Seems like you aren't informed about the agreement. Not every country contributes and its heavily gravitated towards the US. The US is essentially footing the bill. If you're not American, that's good for you because someone is spotting you for lunch.
Also, Trump said he'll reenter the agreement when it becomes fair to the US. I'm all for helping improve the environment, but if other countries are not pulling equal weight and if it puts America at an economic disadvantage against other countries then it wouldn't make sense.
Im not an expert in the nuts and bolts of it, but this philosophy seems to make sense to me.
I'm not sure why you're so upset about this, its not like all advancement to protect our environment stopped when US pulled out. Its not like the agreement was an effective way to protect the environment either.
Its like your mind is so fixated on this one particular issue that has no significance to the rest of the moving parts and the only reason you put so much attention to it is because Trump is doing it and is being blown out of proportion.
The world isn't ending. This agreement isn't a make or break. That's not how the world works. Kinda sounds like you're just looking for something to be mad at. Because this was not an irrational maneuver nor was it a meanuever motivated by bad intention or ignorance.
Also, nobody knows what EU is anymore.
Hurr durr look at me, I'm a young millennial that's college educated. I totally know everything that's going on. I took a class on this. I mean. Like these people that spend their entire career studying this don't know anything. Even though I don't have a career or any sort of work experience besides flipping burgers, I can totally make better decisions than these idiots can
More than what meets the eye kiddo
Ok, renegotiate Paris climate agreement? with whom? will he make 194 world leaders come to see what he has to propose.
It's fair agreement, everyone sets his goals. Obama sat up American goals. Of course that emerging markets have to be able to build more coal power plants since coal is cheap and they have quite a lot of citizens without electricity.
Nobody knows what European Union is? How about economical and political union? And that is the biggest economical union. Economical, meaning it has single market.
The Single Market is not only countries that are a part of the EU and the EU is a fucking shitheap.
It isn't but I've defined European Union. There is EEA (European economical area), but still EU has authority over it.
Antagonist wrote:
Sure why not. We are the U.S anyways. If not, then they can do their own thing. Regardless, innovations for cheap renewable energy continues.
It's fair? Can you do annotations on the agreement to show how this is a fair deal for the U.S?
You're such a drama queen.
Sure bud. I'm sure everyone in the EU are happy and has a single focus on their goals.
Probably only one who is going to come to that meeting is brainless Croatian president.
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